Freemasons vs. Illuminati - LOOKING FOR ONE MORE PLAYER, QUICK GAME

[Arsis]

 

 

I'm impressed more with the colors. Red and blue. Pretty.

If you base solely on color coordination, I'm widely considered to be the best mafia player on the site.

Agreed 100%.

[Tyler Glembo]

I'm at my 7th airport in two days and catching up.  A bit stunned by the amount of derp in the thread.  I don't have the time before boarding my next flight to pull quotes, but some responses:

 

BFG - I find BFG scummy for a few reasons.  First is that although her posting can be spotty at times, normally the analysis is solid.  I didn't feel she had the same insight she normally does, especially with the seeming faked confusion.

 

Arsis - Needed the vote IMO as a consequence to gameplay.  Also needed someone reasonable to chat with.  Now he is openly sheeping to the point where I'm thinking, that is too obv as scum so he must be town. 

 

Yates - I clearly got Yates trap vote on me b/c of the pic posted.  If you don't get the reference you don't get the reference.  I rolled with it.  His defense of me so far is somewhat worrisome and has me tinfoiling about him, but it is on par with him trying to diffuse TvT situations that I've seen.

 

Clov - Flying a bit UTR for the relative number of posts he has, but looks like legit gamesolving so far.  His questions are insightful and actually seem to be driving toward something.

 

Lenlo - Came in with a justified (YES, Justified) RVS vote, which I voted him for half as a stupid trap to see who else jumps and half as a slightly scummy OP.  Later he looks to be on his scum meta for the way he is engaging the other players in the thread.  In short, the way he is phrasing his response questions read passive aggressive annoyed.  As for the Cult of Lenlo, I killed Lenlo N1 after he was silenced.  So I'm #1. 

Finally, when I said par for the course for Lenlo I was referring to the D1 vig early killing votes comment stuff.  You would have to be incredibly stupid or scum to take that out of context and conflate it with my other comments on Lenlo which leads me to..... 

 

AJ - So according to AJ I'm scum because I refuse to back off.  But then, when I update my reads as the thread is changing, I'm scum because I backed off and now I'm just going with consensus.  WHA?  And then AJ goes and quotes me referring to two completely different things about Lenlo (1 about the ongoing jokes being par for the course, the other about his play in this game) and claims I'm flipflopping my reads on Lenlo?  And I'm freakin' boggled that nobody (looking at Des here) could be bothered to remember enough of the thread to remember they were completely different comments on completely different things.  Ugh. 

What's funny is based off AJ's analysis he looks town-ish.  But based of his ridiculous tunneling, refusal to update reads as the game progresses, terribad misrep about my comments on Lenlo, and narrative type game play where I'm scum if I do and I'm scum if I don't, he looks scum.  I'm flip-flopping on him as lock-town and #confscum.  Will decide tomorrow. 

 

My day tomorrow is 100% booked from wake up until about 1am, but I *might have a couple minutes at airports to catch up after about 6pm EST. 

[Tyler Glembo]

Also, I'll try to check back again tonight when I get to my next hotel.  If I don't I blame jet lag. 

[keyholder21]

Ok, Yates, I went back through, trying to focus solely on this game and put aside the discrepancy that I feel is happening.

 

I think this is where my problem begins: The game started after 11pm EST on a weeknight. Half the game was probably asleep and those that posted just said hi. Then, the next day, early afternoon you posted asking about what TG&/or AJ thought about the inactives. It is really early into the game, imo, and it looks…off.

 

Then, after Clov and I posted, you asked if we would have posted then if you hadn’t said anything. Considering it was super early into the game and neither of us had posted any thoughts yet, this question seems odd to me.

 

So, I didn't like your start to the game.

 

BUT. I like your posts from this afternoon, particularly 465 and then your follow up to Clov in 471. I also read TG as town and, like Clov said, that's a hell of a lot of effort to defend a townie if you are scum and you seem legit frustrated, so I'm starting to rethink how I feel about you (this game).

 

 

Work is slow for no reason today. Monday was super busy.

So reread the game and provide your thoughts?

 

Don't see why town!TG would change his stance on Lenlo's meta so inexplicably like that.

But the problem for me is, why would scum!TG either? He had to know he'd draw flack for it.

[Lenlo]

Len, promise not to nk me again. We have the same chance as the doctor who game. Let's not ruin it!

<3

 

Lenlo - Came in with a justified (YES, Justified) RVS vote,

[Arsis]

[unvote] [v]no lynch[/v]

[Arsis]

I think it's all a conspiracy and there aren't actually any illuminati. It's a #FULLDARTHE game. We win by not playing.

[Andrej]

GTFO Arsis.

[Arsis]

There is no illuminati!

 

 

 

#FULLDARTHE #FULLDARTHE

[Yates]

Okay - NOW I have something to work with and can see what you are saying a little better.

I think this is where my problem begins: The game started after 11pm EST on a weeknight. Half the game was probably asleep and those that posted just said hi. Then, the next day, early afternoon you posted asking about what TG&/or AJ thought about the inactives. It is really early into the game, imo, and it looks…off.

By early afternoon how many posts did AJ, TG, and I have already? I guess I hadn't really thought about how relatively early in the game it was because to me it felt like the game had started.

 

Then, after Clov and I posted, you asked if we would have posted then if you hadn’t said anything. Considering it was super early into the game and neither of us had posted any thoughts yet, this question seems odd to me.

So given the above, and the state of the game [pretty much outlined in that TG defense post] do you see why I'd be calling on people for activity? The fact that I asked you guys if you would have posted anyway is actually a point in my favor, I would think, supporting my claim that I was really just trying to get other people to weigh in on the conversation. As you know from however many years of playing, sometimes just seeing your name mentioned in a thread is enough to get someone skimming to take the next step and post sooner rather than later.

 

I legitimately couldn't figure out how my play was confusing to you or somehow scummy or out of character. You have a point about it being relatively early game wise. I hadn't thought of that until you just brought it up. I hope you can understand why - in the moment - I would have felt like we were already in the game. And it's not like AJ or TG were like "Whoa, Yates! Slow your roll! It's way early!" I think we were ALL just playing at that point.

[Arsis]

Why are you arguing with the mod? It's like you're posting but not saying anything.

[Arsis]

I'm in the wrong thread.

[Yates]

I'm in the wrong thread.

HA!

[Andrej]

[unvote]

 

[v]Arsis[/v]

 

I think it's time you go.

 

Alright TG - show me I'm wrong here.

 

The tunnel is strong with me, sure. I just seriously can't get over how you reacted to me over the Lenlo thing. I still maintain that I didn't find the OP scummy and that you look bad for pushing it as such. The only reason I brought up skimming is because I legitimately couldn't understand why you turned on me so quickly.

 

I didn't see much justification.

 

 

Forgot I was still signed up for this. 

[v]Arsis[/v] for the luls.

 

Really AJ?  In a game with about a page worth of posts you failed to see that?

 

[unvote][v]AJ[/v]

 

Seriously - even looking at this now I still have no idea why you 180'd.

 

Yeah, I saw Len's vote. Didn't think anything of it. I really didn't even think anything of you pointing it out initially, I was just replying to you that I didn't see him justifying his joke vote. Then you went all spaz on me which I legitimately could not and still do not understand. I wasn't coming to Len's defense. I was making a simple statement that I didn't apparently see the same thing you did. I still maintain that. Yes, by definition, there was justification to his vote. In context, however, I didn't think there was and I legit do think that was a bad angle for you to push and an even worse reaction to me for disagreeing in the most simple, passive manner ever. If your intent was to 'trap' someone, well I guess you succeeded and mostly it's just had me out for your head all game long - so thumbs up there.

[Arsis]

Aj is scum. They always act like that when I troll and act stupid. Town just ignore me scum get made because I'm interfering with their agenda. They're trying to push their talking points and create distractions and I'm being a buffoon in the corner. Town usually ignores it or tries to help. Scum attack.

 

[unvote] [v]aj[/v]

[Arsis]

Who is aj's team?

 

Not tg, not Yates not me.

[Arsis]

Maybe key?

[Andrej]

Your dumbassery offers Town little and gives you something to hide behind as scum.

 

You say you're town, show me then.

 

I really have no reason to think of you as such with your antics this game and frankly I'm a bit exhausted having to try to interpret you.

[Andrej]

lolol

 

Yeah, get serious now clown.

 

You guys should probably just follow his lead.

[Arsis]

Or is it a town thing to vote for another town because he's coasting? Town vote other town all the time, right?

[Yates]

Who is aj's team?

 

Not tg, not Yates not me.

Scum is lurking and loling at the Town on Town violence. Book it. Probably 1 scum among the actives.

[Arsis]

lolol

 

Yeah, get serious now clown.

 

You guys should probably just follow his lead.

 

This is so scummy it hurts. This is like one step down from a self vote which you gave me so much flak for. Stay consistent.

[Andrej]

At this point I almost don't want to play with you.

 

Like legitimately.

 

I'm frustrated because I have dug in this game while you just kinda troll from the side.

 

Thanks for the assist bro.

[Arsis]

That's not a town perspective.

[Andrej]

Like you'd know.