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Wizarding World War 1 - Mafia Game - Day 2

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Rand. 58 posts.

 

Starts off with fluff. Makes a joke vote on Mynd even though it's technically N0. Then 20 minutes later he says he doesn't like a joke vote Tsuki put on Mynd. Ping.

 

Tsuki FOSed Rand for misinterpreting. Rand asks him if he honestly messed up the vote code on Mynd on purpose. Tsuki confirms he NEVER votes in the first 24 hours of a game. It's actually easy to check if this is true by taking a peek at some of his previous games (might do that later, actually), but Rand just says he finds it hard to believe. Then he adds two more points. He claims that his FOS on Tsuki's vote on Mynd was just to see his reaction. He also says it's N0 so votes don't mean anything. First of all, if someone was FOSing me for something they did 20 minutes earlier, you better believe I would have accused them of being fake and purposefully misinterpreting my actions. How exactly did he expect a townie to react? Roll over and die? lol   Secondly, I don't see how it matters what phase it is, if it was clearly a joke vote on both accounts. So this whole..... exchange....... is dense.

 

More fluff posts.

 

Then he casts a vote on Mynd, saying this time it's for real with a tongue in cheek smiley. No explanation as to why. Serious, joke vote... who knows?

 

More fluff posts mostly towards dice explaining the joke about voting Mynd because of a previous game. So I guess the above vote was a joke. Mkay. Keeps explaining how his vote on N0 wasn't counted as a vote so his REAL joke vote is on D1. Honestly? I don't get the point of this. If all he wanted was to vote Mynd in jest then why do it again? Who cares if it was a counted vote or not? He wanted to jerk around. He did. Move on man :P

 

Mish votes him and he explains again why he cast a joke vote on Mynd. In his exchange with Mish he says: " Its not like I could find another random person to joke vote that would make me look innocent either." Wat? lol   It's true that Rand has been starting off games voting Mynd lately. But I could totally see how him suddenly breaking away from that might look suspicious. Now lets stop and think about this..... who would be more nervous about that? TownRand or ScumRand? ;)

 

Dar kinda FOSes him as well and he's like, relax, this is just joke voting, we will all know when he starts voting for real.

 

Loads of fluff fluff fluff

 

And more fluff.

 

Then he tells me to stop trolling Dar. Wasn't, really. I was just making a point. D1 is like any other day where we scumhunt and hope to catch scum. It's definitely not a 'lets vote randomly' fest where we hope we get lucky. 

 

More fluff.

 

Then he says he has a Town lean on Key because she came straight into the game with her serious face on and that's indicative of a townie. First of all. he's wrong. Scum can easily appear serious to gain cred. Secondly..... I find the whole notion interesting. Rand, who has come into the game with his full fluff on claims that the townie thing to do is to cut the crap and scumhunt seriously right off the bat. Not saying I agree with him. This game is also built to have fun. But I find it funny that he chose to do anything but that when he entered the game. You can't have it both ways.... unless you're bi.

 

Then I question what he said about Key. He says: "Generically, mafia does joke around a little with the rest of town, and then hops onto something." Oh, you mean like you've been doing? LOL  Again, I really don't agree with this comment. Both town and mafia can jerk around before getting serious. But him making this statements of what is townie approach and then doing the opposite of it.... or what is a scummy approach and doing exactly the same........ is amusing!    Anyways, Tsuki accuses him of buddying up with Key.

 

Then he goes on with his exchange with Mish. Keeps excusing the fact that it's still joking phase and that there isn't a time stamp to when it stops. It simply happens when things get serious. Sweetie, I'm pretty sure things got serious by now xD  Considering you have at least four players riding your ass xD

 

 

And then there's this little gem:

 The game should advance at its own pace, and its doing so right now.  The more we try to speed it up, the more that we usually grab onto a "scumtell" that's generally pretty small, the more likely town v town violence shows up, and we end up lynching a town.  Thats how most games start and they're still winnable, I would just prefer a calmer start, with gentle FoSes for small scum plays, wait for reactions/slight slips/impatience, and then get the game started on a better note.

 

 

LOL  So.... key gets cred for diving right in scumhunting full force but at the same time you're advocating not jumping into serious mode because the game has to flow at its own pace, progress harmonically throughout the universe as the birds chirp and the cows moo and once the planets align just right then we will have our moment!

 

Seriously, this post is garbage.

 

 

Then half an hour later he's like. Guys, wait up wait up. Is it me, or is Nyn having a dry quips spell? I think I like ScumNyn more. Great way of trying to get me react. You know, spit a few fireballs, burn a couple of virgins. Too bad it didn't work. He of course backtracks later on saying this was all a joke, but we'll get to that part later ;)  Good excuse that one. Every time someone bites his head off about something, he reverts back to his 'oh it was just a joke' excuse.

 

He responds to me saying he's waiting for 'SOMETHING' and once that something happens, he'll comment more. Okaaaaaaaaaay.

 

More fluff. Reiterating his garbage to Mish. More fluff. Loads of posts repeatedly starting with  Lol.

 

Then he's like. Oh wow, it's so weird reading Nynlia apart.  *rolls eyes*

 

fluff fluff fluff.

 

Then he seconds Rhea comment about me not answering with a quip to what Tsuki said. But didn't he say it was a joke earlier? 

 

Then he kinda half FOSes Rhea for making a sum up. He said she did put some opinions there. And yet he's still labeling her as a scum lean for it lol  Guys, if you ever wonder what would scum do, feel free to direct your questions to Rand. He seems to have it down.

 

Then he goes on with an exchange on Tsuki. Over-explaining and generally not letting it rest. This is where I felt like he was wigging a bit.

 

Notbob joins the 'we wanna lynch Rand' club and says it's hunch. Rand says that based on a previous games it's true that NB has good hunches but that this game he's wrong cause... well... Rand says so. lol

 

Then he suddenly says..... oh wow, I'm so not used to playing with people I don't know. And X's game was like really intense. I need a day or two to cool off. Funny that at this point he feels that it's overbearing to play with people he doesn't know. Didn't seem to bother him throughout N1 and half of D1.

 

Tsuki and Rand keep on arguing. Ran defends Key for defending him when Tsuki FOSes her for it xD

 

Then he FOSes Rhea when she votes Dar, saying she didn't give any reasons but at the same breath saying that the reasons people have voted Dar have been mentioned numerous times. It's possible she agreed with the case. But I feel that a better look at everyone who voted Dar after me was more legit than an opportunistic FOS on the fourth voter.

 

More defense of Key from Tsuki.

 

Dice votes Rand. He says: "Damn, he's gonna be going like this for days isn't he?  Another one of those, just agree with the consensus with a short explanation of what's obvious and push on a moving train.  FoS to both you and Rhea for this."   LOL  Then he FOSes Mynd too for voting him.

 

 

Unvote Daruya

 

Vote Rand

 

 

I believe we got ourselves a scum.

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Everyone had stopped floating around and found bodies. James was walking hurriedly looking for Lily.

 

Suddenly he found some others standing nearby. He walked confidently towards them but before he knew it curses were flying fast towards him.

 

Accusations began to fly towards him as well.

 

'Why is You-Know-Who targeting you, huh?. You could be with him and it all could be a ruse to target the innocents.'

 

James tried to defend himself but there were too many and he died.

 

Rand, James Potter, Town Roleblocker was lynched

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Red digs out a resurrection stone from her pocket and slams the stone into Rand's essence.  He zooms into a new body as if nothign ever happened.

 

 

Mish's RL is picking up, so everyone welcome Rand 2.0 to the game

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He looked like scum to me. And when I finished the ISO and changed my vote it was so close to the deadline that I didn't even expect him to show up. I was obviously wrong but I stand behind the reasons I voted for him.

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I'd hazard a pretty good guess that there's at least one scum on Rand 1.0's train, so with that being said, time to do some analysis.

 

Personally, I think Rand is pushing his "I'm gonna vote Mynd for this old game" a bit too far now.

 

You know, like Mynd pushed the "Hydras are bad hurr" one game too many; the last game he was scum. Feels like forcing his meta for Rand now.

 

[v] Rand[/v]

First vote on Rand 1.0, now have the benefit of knowing this was town.

 

 

Tsuki keep in mind that some of my going out of the way to not be hostile to anyone might be my personality as well, I tend to do that in RL.

 

Justification of behaviour - check. Mention of it being an alignment tell - NOT check 

 

Defensive, Much. All I said was that it was noted, not that I thought you were scummy for it...

 

Defense of Behaviour noted - check. Mention of alignment tell - NOT check

 

 

Defensive, Much. All I said was that it was noted, not that I thought you were scummy for it...

Ik, I was just saying that its more of me as a person not alignment indicative.  How was that defensive?

 

 

Saying it was you as a person - Check. Saying it was Not Alignment Indicative - NOT check (see above). Defensive - Even more so.

 

Got one. If that was how you play, you would have just said so and let it go, especially since you ignored it when I originally posted it. But because I answered it to Key, you suddenly think people will pay attention to it? Worried that I pointed out the behaviour to someone else?

 

 

Scum =[v] Rand [/v]

 

Second vote, looking at it again, Tsuki looks more like a confused tunneling townie than anything else here, no idea what he was saying here.  Could be mafia with weak reasons, but for now, I have more obvious fish to catch.

 

...but for now...Unvote, Vote Rand

 

This is NotBob's style, throw out a vote, he has his reasons, won't say them.  Looks fairly good for him now.  If he had tried to put in reasons I would have been suspicious.

 

Also, the last pile up on my train is the most likely to hold scum.  So lets pretend for a second I had a dream.  It would have Mynd/Dice/Nyn in it.

I think Rand is scum so [unvote]

 

[v] Rand [/v]

Apparently this was't a beat the grass vote, so I'm kind of confused on why Mynd didn't offer an explanation.  Generally he gets a pretty good case with analysis going when he wants to vote someone, or he'll do something like this to beat the grass and watch the reaction.  Don't like this vote at all anymore.

 

I can see what people mean by Rand is flailing. His response dont work for me. they feel off.

 

Tsuki being aggressive/hostile is kinda normal to me. Gods know ive been on the other end of it. Once he grabs hold of something he doesnt really let it go. I can relate to that.

 

i still dont like the way Dawn sounds because its a BIG change but noone else seeing it so i will let it go for now.

 

unvote  vote Rand

Again, don't like this.  This vote was before Mynd, but the one sentence explanation with some hot words like flailing thrown in for a vote on me isn't enough.

 

Rand. 58 posts.

 

Starts off with fluff. Makes a joke vote on Mynd even though it's technically N0. Then 20 minutes later he says he doesn't like a joke vote Tsuki put on Mynd. Ping.

 

Tsuki FOSed Rand for misinterpreting. Rand asks him if he honestly messed up the vote code on Mynd on purpose. Tsuki confirms he NEVER votes in the first 24 hours of a game. It's actually easy to check if this is true by taking a peek at some of his previous games (might do that later, actually), but Rand just says he finds it hard to believe. Then he adds two more points. He claims that his FOS on Tsuki's vote on Mynd was just to see his reaction. He also says it's N0 so votes don't mean anything. First of all, if someone was FOSing me for something they did 20 minutes earlier, you better believe I would have accused them of being fake and purposefully misinterpreting my actions. How exactly did he expect a townie to react? Roll over and die? lol   Secondly, I don't see how it matters what phase it is, if it was clearly a joke vote on both accounts. So this whole..... exchange....... is dense.

 

More fluff posts.

 

Then he casts a vote on Mynd, saying this time it's for real with a tongue in cheek smiley. No explanation as to why. Serious, joke vote... who knows?

 

More fluff posts mostly towards dice explaining the joke about voting Mynd because of a previous game. So I guess the above vote was a joke. Mkay. Keeps explaining how his vote on N0 wasn't counted as a vote so his REAL joke vote is on D1. Honestly? I don't get the point of this. If all he wanted was to vote Mynd in jest then why do it again? Who cares if it was a counted vote or not? He wanted to jerk around. He did. Move on man :P

 

Mish votes him and he explains again why he cast a joke vote on Mynd. In his exchange with Mish he says: " Its not like I could find another random person to joke vote that would make me look innocent either." Wat? lol   It's true that Rand has been starting off games voting Mynd lately. But I could totally see how him suddenly breaking away from that might look suspicious. Now lets stop and think about this..... who would be more nervous about that? TownRand or ScumRand? ;)

 

Dar kinda FOSes him as well and he's like, relax, this is just joke voting, we will all know when he starts voting for real.

 

Loads of fluff fluff fluff

 

And more fluff.

 

Then he tells me to stop trolling Dar. Wasn't, really. I was just making a point. D1 is like any other day where we scumhunt and hope to catch scum. It's definitely not a 'lets vote randomly' fest where we hope we get lucky. 

 

More fluff.

 

Then he says he has a Town lean on Key because she came straight into the game with her serious face on and that's indicative of a townie. First of all. he's wrong. Scum can easily appear serious to gain cred. Secondly..... I find the whole notion interesting. Rand, who has come into the game with his full fluff on claims that the townie thing to do is to cut the crap and scumhunt seriously right off the bat. Not saying I agree with him. This game is also built to have fun. But I find it funny that he chose to do anything but that when he entered the game. You can't have it both ways.... unless you're bi.

 

Then I question what he said about Key. He says: "Generically, mafia does joke around a little with the rest of town, and then hops onto something." Oh, you mean like you've been doing? LOL  Again, I really don't agree with this comment. Both town and mafia can jerk around before getting serious. But him making this statements of what is townie approach and then doing the opposite of it.... or what is a scummy approach and doing exactly the same........ is amusing!    Anyways, Tsuki accuses him of buddying up with Key.

 

Then he goes on with his exchange with Mish. Keeps excusing the fact that it's still joking phase and that there isn't a time stamp to when it stops. It simply happens when things get serious. Sweetie, I'm pretty sure things got serious by now xD  Considering you have at least four players riding your ass xD

 

 

And then there's this little gem:

 The game should advance at its own pace, and its doing so right now.  The more we try to speed it up, the more that we usually grab onto a "scumtell" that's generally pretty small, the more likely town v town violence shows up, and we end up lynching a town.  Thats how most games start and they're still winnable, I would just prefer a calmer start, with gentle FoSes for small scum plays, wait for reactions/slight slips/impatience, and then get the game started on a better note.

 

 

LOL  So.... key gets cred for diving right in scumhunting full force but at the same time you're advocating not jumping into serious mode because the game has to flow at its own pace, progress harmonically throughout the universe as the birds chirp and the cows moo and once the planets align just right then we will have our moment!

 

Seriously, this post is garbage.

 

 

Then half an hour later he's like. Guys, wait up wait up. Is it me, or is Nyn having a dry quips spell? I think I like ScumNyn more. Great way of trying to get me react. You know, spit a few fireballs, burn a couple of virgins. Too bad it didn't work. He of course backtracks later on saying this was all a joke, but we'll get to that part later ;)  Good excuse that one. Every time someone bites his head off about something, he reverts back to his 'oh it was just a joke' excuse.

 

He responds to me saying he's waiting for 'SOMETHING' and once that something happens, he'll comment more. Okaaaaaaaaaay.

 

More fluff. Reiterating his garbage to Mish. More fluff. Loads of posts repeatedly starting with  Lol.

 

Then he's like. Oh wow, it's so weird reading Nynlia apart.  *rolls eyes*

 

fluff fluff fluff.

 

Then he seconds Rhea comment about me not answering with a quip to what Tsuki said. But didn't he say it was a joke earlier? 

 

Then he kinda half FOSes Rhea for making a sum up. He said she did put some opinions there. And yet he's still labeling her as a scum lean for it lol  Guys, if you ever wonder what would scum do, feel free to direct your questions to Rand. He seems to have it down.

 

Then he goes on with an exchange on Tsuki. Over-explaining and generally not letting it rest. This is where I felt like he was wigging a bit.

 

Notbob joins the 'we wanna lynch Rand' club and says it's hunch. Rand says that based on a previous games it's true that NB has good hunches but that this game he's wrong cause... well... Rand says so. lol

 

Then he suddenly says..... oh wow, I'm so not used to playing with people I don't know. And X's game was like really intense. I need a day or two to cool off. Funny that at this point he feels that it's overbearing to play with people he doesn't know. Didn't seem to bother him throughout N1 and half of D1.

 

Tsuki and Rand keep on arguing. Ran defends Key for defending him when Tsuki FOSes her for it xD

 

Then he FOSes Rhea when she votes Dar, saying she didn't give any reasons but at the same breath saying that the reasons people have voted Dar have been mentioned numerous times. It's possible she agreed with the case. But I feel that a better look at everyone who voted Dar after me was more legit than an opportunistic FOS on the fourth voter.

 

More defense of Key from Tsuki.

 

Dice votes Rand. He says: "Damn, he's gonna be going like this for days isn't he?  Another one of those, just agree with the consensus with a short explanation of what's obvious and push on a moving train.  FoS to both you and Rhea for this."   LOL  Then he FOSes Mynd too for voting him.

 

 

Unvote Daruya

 

Vote Rand

 

 

I believe we got ourselves a scum.

Nyn goes full case, then votes me.  I don't think she ever went full case in her last game as scum, so this looks good so far.

 

So my highest scum reads would be Mynd, then Dice.

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