[Basic]TRON Mafia Game-Day 4

[Tyler Glembo]

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

I've moved from you just trolling me to you being scum.  Your reads so far in regards to Lenlo and Vos have been either wrong or scum motivated.  Your trolling of me is off the charts and I know I'm town.  So you're 0/3 on reads so far which makes you >rand to be scum.

 

Other scum candidates are Rand based of Vos death and both Tommy and DT from yesterday.

[Myndrunner]

Some more questions before I go get lunch.   Eat my floppy drive, you MCP wide-nostriled rainbow conehead!

 

 

Looks like a digital drag queen. Anyways....

 

 

Darthe - I noticed some soft foses on him, but I think only one person ever voted him.

 

Vos - Vos and I had a little fight in the beginning, but after that, no one has really FoSed Vos that I know.  If he's mafia, he played it well, getting attention off of him before the lynch trains started, small as they were.  However, he didn't really seem to want to get rid of the attention, so he still looks somewhat good.

 

Clov - Clov really hasn't done as much to get out there as others have.  Seems town, but hasn't put out strong polarizing opinions, could be mafia.

 

Nynlia - I understand that they're both busy, but again, the fact that they haven't done anything outstanding in terms of opinions, where they have ones that stand out against the general game flow, is not related to the amount that they post.  Plus I don't get why a bunch of people meta clear them since I'm not really too good with meta clear.

So if we look at the people who haven't been getting a lot of attention and haven't risked getting a lot of scummy attention, then we are left with Darthe/Clov/Nynlia.

 

 

 

@Rand - you acknowledged your little tiff with Vos in the beginning.  Are you one to hold grudges? You voted me out the gate for a previous game derp.  You also soft him as town in you reads.  If you were scum, it would make sense to whack someone you felt was looking good. 

 

Also, between Darthe/Clov/Nynlia, who would you lynch today if you could based on what they have done so far and why?

 

 

 

 

I was hoping for more suspiciousness here, but no one else did anything.  Salami and Notbob's vote on Lenlo can be argued and dismissed as self-preservation, as NB even says as much.  I moved from TG to Lenlo because he was my #2 and I felt the most confident of the three mini-trains that he would flip scum. 

 

I'm curious as to why your vote remained squarely on Clov since it was clear that train was not leaving the station.

 

 

Why was it clear? There was loads of time till the deadline when I placed my vote on Clov. And I wasn't around when the deadline hit.

 

Clov is currently at the top of my scum list. I would have settled for DT too but since everyone is being so accommodating to newbies lately, I decided it wasn't worth the argument. There are a couple of other people that were wary about Clov, like TG. Was hoping they'd switch to him. Since there was no train with an abundance of votes, I was hopeful. 

 

 

 

@Nyn - If I read this correctly, your top three scum reads are Clov/DT/TG correct?  Which of those three would you lynch today based on your reads up to this point and why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

UnOfficial Vote Count-Day 1

BFcsarmi: 2 - Darthe, Vos
TG: 1 - Mynd
RandA lThor: 1 - Lenlo
Lenlo: 2 - Drunk Tank, RandA lThor
Tommy: 1 NotBob
Clov: 1 - NynLia
NotBob: 2 - Clov, Tommy
Darthe: 1 - BFcsarmi

Not Voting: 1 - TG

12 Alive, takes 7 to Lynch

Time to consolidate our trains.  TG not having a vote on anyone this close to deadline bothers me.

 

You work very hard. Thank you.

@Drunk Tank - if you could lynch anyone currently listed above besides Lenlo today, who would it be and why?

 

Oh shit. 2 hours til' deadline. Never seen such a spread out VC on day 1 2 hours before deadline. I guess it's one of the things with the hybrid hammer set-up.

 

Not really stoked about letting random.org decide who dies, but I'm not really sold on neither Lenlo nor NotBob.

 

Pretty comfortable leaving my vote where it is for now, especially since BFG is still MIA and Csarmi seems to be doing damage control more than scum hunting. 

I don't like this post at all.  I would expect this post from Lenlo but not Vos. He starts out with how shocked and panic'd he is about having only 2 hours until deadline.  He stresses how he doesn't want the lynch to go to random; however, he refuses to unvote BeefArmi because one is missing and the other "seems" to be doing damage control.   So basically, he doesn't wanna change his vote to keep the lynch going random because Lenlo and NotBob "might" be town, but Beef Armi "might" be scum. 

 

How can you be that sold on one player being scum enough to risk the random lynch? I don't like this and it stinks.

 

Actually, I wouldn't mind so much if random.org decided who went today based on how hard everyone has been to read in this game; however, we need the vote count info to go forward. 

 

 

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

Most confident there.

BeefArmi is either towniegood or bumped their collective head.   Why would one of the three possible random.org lynches place his/their vote on Darthe, bringing him to one vote?  He could have easily moved his vote to Lenlo or NotBob, which would have moved either one of them into the lead lynch. 

 

Unless, of course, the scum team is Lenlo/NotBob/BeefArmi.....but that would be too cray-cray, right?

 

 

 

Mynd - I like the thought process you're showing here with your analysis, though I think you're slightly misrepresenting what Vos said about Lenlo and NB.  He said that he's not sold on either of them - I think this gives a higher level of trust than 'they "might" be town'.  I want to draw extra attention to the fact that Vos was essentially letting it go random, even though the people that it would be randed between were the two he wasn't willing to lynch. 

 

 

 

@Clov - Why do you believe the mafia chose Vos?  Do you think Vos keeping his vote on BeefArmi had anything to do with it?

 

Also, what are your thoughts on both Rand and Nynlia placing you at the top of their mafia scum list?

[Nynaeve]

We lost a vanilla and a quite possible mislynch. I'll take that for a night one result, thank you.

 

I will be sure to prostrate myself later in gratitude  

[Tyler Glembo]

Why was it clear? There was loads of time till the deadline when I placed my vote on Clov. And I wasn't around when the deadline hit.

 

Clov is currently at the top of my scum list. I would have settled for DT too but since everyone is being so accommodating to newbies lately, I decided it wasn't worth the argument. There are a couple of other people that were wary about Clov, like TG. Was hoping they'd switch to him. Since there was no train with an abundance of votes, I was hopeful. 

 

 

This caught my eye from the night phase.  Nyn speaks about me as though I'm town in this post, noting that I was wary of Clov.  Only a townsperson is wary of other players.  Nyn using phrasing like this when earlier she said something about putting flaming dog ish on my doorstep (assuming that meant she thought I was scummy) is very strange.  FOS.

[Tyler Glembo]

I had no idea we could still post during night phase. Very unusual for me. Quite a bit to read.

 

I'd like to see some analysis/insight from you today.

[Tyler Glembo]

We lost a vanilla and a quite possible mislynch. I'll take that for a night one result, thank you.

 

I don't even?  Vos was my #1 town read, and from what I remember multiple people found him to be town.

[Myndrunner]

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

I've moved from you just trolling me to you being scum.  Your reads so far in regards to Lenlo and Vos have been either wrong or scum motivated.  Your trolling of me is off the charts and I know I'm town.  So you're 0/3 on reads so far which makes you >rand to be scum.

 

Other scum candidates are Rand based of Vos death and both Tommy and DT from yesterday.

 

This is adorable. 

 

TG stays clear of me for the latter half of the game and then suddenly, out the gate, comes at me.  He doesn't realize that he just outed himself as mafia.  He's desperately trying to use Lenlo and Vos flipping town as a reason for everyone to totally ignore him.  I guess this is what a scum TG looks like.

 

If I was mafia, I wouldn't kill Vos if I had built a good scum case against him.  I'm not the only one that felt this way about Vos either. 

 

As far as Lenlo, I also wasn't the only one who felt he was scum, and I certainly wasn't the one who started the lynch.  I voted him in the end because 1) he was my #2 scumread and 2) we couldn't let the vote go random. 

 

I'm sure by now you wish you could edit or delete that post.  You see, it reads to me as someone who doesn't want anyone else listening to what I have to say.

 

Funny thing...I was more interested in a couple other players today than you. 

 

[v] TG [/v]

[Tyler Glembo]

 

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

I've moved from you just trolling me to you being scum.  Your reads so far in regards to Lenlo and Vos have been either wrong or scum motivated.  Your trolling of me is off the charts and I know I'm town.  So you're 0/3 on reads so far which makes you >rand to be scum.

 

Other scum candidates are Rand based of Vos death and both Tommy and DT from yesterday.

 

This is adorable. 

 

TG stays clear of me for the latter half of the game and then suddenly, out the gate, comes at me.  He doesn't realize that he just outed himself as mafia.  He's desperately trying to use Lenlo and Vos flipping town as a reason for everyone to totally ignore him.  I guess this is what a scum TG looks like.

 

If I was mafia, I wouldn't kill Vos if I had built a good scum case against him.  I'm not the only one that felt this way about Vos either. 

 

As far as Lenlo, I also wasn't the only one who felt he was scum, and I certainly wasn't the one who started the lynch.  I voted him in the end because 1) he was my #2 scumread and 2) we couldn't let the vote go random. 

 

I'm sure by now you wish you could edit or delete that post.  You see, it reads to me as someone who doesn't want anyone else listening to what I have to say.

 

Funny thing...I was more interested in a couple other players today than you. 

 

[v] TG [/v]

 

 

By all means, keep posting scum.  It'll be fun for the rest of us to try and figure out your teammates later from your spew.  Course, between the trolling, mislogic, and obv!bad reads it won't be easy, but I think we're up to the task.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

[v]Mynd[/v]

 

I've moved from you just trolling me to you being scum.  Your reads so far in regards to Lenlo and Vos have been either wrong or scum motivated.  Your trolling of me is off the charts and I know I'm town.  So you're 0/3 on reads so far which makes you >rand to be scum.

 

Other scum candidates are Rand based of Vos death and both Tommy and DT from yesterday.

 

This is adorable. 

 

TG stays clear of me for the latter half of the game and then suddenly, out the gate, comes at me.  He doesn't realize that he just outed himself as mafia.  He's desperately trying to use Lenlo and Vos flipping town as a reason for everyone to totally ignore him.  I guess this is what a scum TG looks like.

 

If I was mafia, I wouldn't kill Vos if I had built a good scum case against him.  I'm not the only one that felt this way about Vos either. 

 

As far as Lenlo, I also wasn't the only one who felt he was scum, and I certainly wasn't the one who started the lynch.  I voted him in the end because 1) he was my #2 scumread and 2) we couldn't let the vote go random. 

 

I'm sure by now you wish you could edit or delete that post.  You see, it reads to me as someone who doesn't want anyone else listening to what I have to say.

 

Funny thing...I was more interested in a couple other players today than you. 

 

[v] TG [/v]

 

 

By all means, keep posting scum.  It'll be fun for the rest of us to try and figure out your teammates later from your spew.  Course, between the trolling, mislogic, and obv!bad reads it won't be easy, but I think we're up to the task.

 

 

How do you not know that this is outing you as scum?  Why are you so afraid of people actually taking my thoughts seriously?

[Nynaeve]

@Nyn - If I read this correctly, your top three scum reads are Clov/DT/TG correct?  Which of those three would you lynch today based on your reads up to this point and why?

 

DT. Still highly suspicious of Clov but at least he decided to give a damn and actually post after I FOSed him.

 

You pointed out that DT is coming off newbie awkward like. I don't see it at all. It feels like he knows exactly what he's doing, while throwing in some newbie clueless comment here and there for pretense, like the most recent one of having no idea that we talk through nights.  He has contributed nothing to the game so far. Uber passive and content with sitting back and letting the rest do the work. I haven't seen him do even one proactive post since the game began. He can easily coast through the game in this manner, especially since being new to the site seemed to have earned him at least a D1 pass. Well, we're on D2 now so he better shape up or get gone. 

[Tyler Glembo]

How do you not know that this is outing you as scum?  Why are you so afraid of people actually taking my thoughts seriously?

 

 

Because you're scum.  So people taking your thoughts seriously will lose the game and I'd prefer that didn't happen.

[Tyler Glembo]

Well, we're on D2 now so he better shape up or get gone. 

 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Vote Darthe

 

Just a hunch.

 

Could also vote Salami or Nyn.

[Tyler Glembo]

 

How do you not know that this is outing you as scum?  Why are you so afraid of people actually taking my thoughts seriously?

 

 

Because you're scum.  So people taking your thoughts seriously will lose the game and I'd prefer that didn't happen.

 

 

That and you post ridiculous things, and then when I question you on it you avoid my questions.  I'd like them answered to I'll try again. 

 

Question #1: In your case you said I knew Lenlo was online from our QT so I posted to him in the thread.  In the very next sentence you said I posted to him in the thread because I needed him to get online and read the QT.  Explain why you said I knew Lenlo was online so I needed do so something to get him online.

 

In retrospect, your case relied quite heavily on made up interactions between Lenlo and I, which should downgrade your case from a 4/10 to a -1/10.

[Tyler Glembo]

Question #2:  Do you think there is a difference between saying "I won't lynch Player X today" vs. " I will never lynch Player X nomatter what"?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Also, FTR...loving the TG and Mynd fisticuffs...have no idea on any alignment but think TG is winning the debate.

[Tyler Glembo]

Question #3: Since my vote on Kronos was during the RVS stage but still somehow a part of your case, do you know what the Random Vote Stage is? (also known as Joke Voting)

[Nynaeve]

 

Why was it clear? There was loads of time till the deadline when I placed my vote on Clov. And I wasn't around when the deadline hit.

 

Clov is currently at the top of my scum list. I would have settled for DT too but since everyone is being so accommodating to newbies lately, I decided it wasn't worth the argument. There are a couple of other people that were wary about Clov, like TG. Was hoping they'd switch to him. Since there was no train with an abundance of votes, I was hopeful. 

 

 

This caught my eye from the night phase.  Nyn speaks about me as though I'm town in this post, noting that I was wary of Clov.  Only a townsperson is wary of other players.  Nyn using phrasing like this when earlier she said something about putting flaming dog ish on my doorstep (assuming that meant she thought I was scummy) is very strange.  FOS.

 

 

What's strange about it? Haven't been a fan of you thus far but I have other people at the top of my scum list. Town or scum, you are confined to the statements you make on thread. One of which was your suspicion of Clov. You could be bussing Clov. You could be legit scum reading him. Not sure which of them it is yet.

 

In any case, Mynd was trying to make a point on how starting a Clov train was a lost cause. I disagree because I don't think I was the only one who felt iffy about him.

[csarmi]

Baby...

Did you forget to take your meds?

[csarmi]

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

Still there. BFG is >rand to come with an analysis later.

[Tyler Glembo]

What's strange about it? Haven't been a fan of you thus far but I have other people at the top of my scum list. Town or scum, you are confined to the statements you make on thread. One of which was your suspicion of Clov. You could be bussing Clov. You could be legit scum reading him. Not sure which of them it is yet.

 

In any case, Mynd was trying to make a point on how starting a Clov train was a lost cause. I disagree because I don't think I was the only one who felt iffy about him.

 

 

What is strange about it is you mention me being wary of another player.  That indicates you know I'm town since only town would have cause to be wary.

[csarmi]

Active TG is a good TG.

[Tyler Glembo]

Unofficial VC

 

Mynd (1) - TG

TG (1) - Mynd

Darthe (2) - NB, BFarmi

 

Not Voting(6/10)-Darthe, Drunk Tank, Tommy, RandA lThor, Clov, Nynlia

 

10 Alive, takes 6 to Lynch

 

Deadline-http://www.timeandda...sg=End of Day 2

[Myndrunner]

 

 

How do you not know that this is outing you as scum?  Why are you so afraid of people actually taking my thoughts seriously?

 

 

Because you're scum.  So people taking your thoughts seriously will lose the game and I'd prefer that didn't happen.

 

 

That and you post ridiculous things, and then when I question you on it you avoid my questions.  I'd like them answered to I'll try again. 

 

Question #1: In your case you said I knew Lenlo was online from our QT so I posted to him in the thread.  In the very next sentence you said I posted to him in the thread because I needed him to get online and read the QT.  Explain why you said I knew Lenlo was online so I needed do so something to get him online.

 

In retrospect, your case relied quite heavily on made up interactions between Lenlo and I, which should downgrade your case from a 4/10 to a -1/10.

 

 

Fair enough.  

 

#1) You both posted in tandem.  Even when Tommy called that a stretch, the two of you posted together.   Why did you need to post "Lenlo, I need your help" only to post a silly gif instead?  Please explain the logic behind that.  To me, that suggests you were signaling someone to read something in your mafia QT.   With Lenlo flipping town, I can't understand why you would do that at all.  Was it a joke that bombed or were you trying to signal attention to him?

 

My case was on you.  The Lenlo connection was only a small part of it and was more about Lenlo than you.  And it's just my case, take it or leave it.  Why are you overreacting this way?

[Xthrax]

Official Vote Count-Day 2

 

Mynd-(1/6)-TG

TG-(1/6)-Mynd

Darthe-(2/6)-NotBob, BFArmi

 

Not Voting(6/10)-Darthe, Drunk Tank, Tommy, RandA lThor, Clov, Nynlia