[Basic]TRON Mafia Game-Day 4

[csarmi]

BFG likes Drunk's reads. I pointed out the lack of reasoning, she says that's not too unusual for DM either.

 

Question to Drunk remains tho.

[Myndrunner]

@Rand, @Mynd - how do you guys feel about Drunk?

 

He seems to be keeping pace with the game alright.  I was hoping he would have answered my question by now seeing as he was just here.  I wanted his response BEFORE I moved my vote to Lenlo to try and see where he tried to steer me.  He hasn't really done anything scummy that others haven't already done in this game.  Not unvoting Lenlo could mean that he is mafia with NotBob and you (or one of the two of you); however, he strikes me as not only new to the culture here at DM but obviously working alone, therefore not on anyone's mafia QT. 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

@NotBob any comments please? Thank you.

 

uhh,self preservation

[Myndrunner]

We can still do the right thing and lynch scum!Darthe?

 

Why are you so sure about Darthe being scum again?

[csarmi]

How do you feel about the day in general? Especially with the 2-2-2-1-1-1 trains? What would scum be doing in that situation and why?

[csarmi]

 

We can still do the right thing and lynch scum!Darthe?

 

Why are you so sure about Darthe being scum again?

 

Little things. The fake-clear on Tommy (yea I know he explained... not really buying), the misrep on me (that I would try to throw dirt every which way), the timing of his posts, or soem sort of general feel.

[csarmi]

I'm also wary of how no bigger-sized trains were forming. That there were few players around the deadline is unfortunately not that telling because the timing is really inconvenient for americans - but still.

[csarmi]

 

@NotBob any comments please? Thank you.

 

uhh,self preservation

 

Fair enough.

[csarmi]

How familiar y'all are with hybrid hammer games?

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

How familiar y'all are with hybrid hammer games?

 

first game with it

[Myndrunner]

Ooooooooh.  THIS is horrribad!

 

@Rand: scum team if Len flips town?

This smells like a post setting us all up for Len to actually flip town.  It is as if BeefArmi already knows who the scummies and townies are. 

 

I'll be around. Not very happy with a Len lynch but it could be worse I suppose. BFG is also up, but she can only access the QT now cause her net is horrible at work.

Another set up for a townie Lenlo lynch post.  "I'm not happy with this......"   If Lenlo flips scum, would you still not be happy with it? 

 

We can still do the right thing and lynch scum!Darthe?

So, lynching Lenlo is the wrong thing how?

 

Beefarmi, your last minute posts just before deadline seem a bit frantic. 

 

From my POV as a townie, if Lenlo flips town on D1, it isn't gonna crush our game.  Sure, it sucks to lose a townie, but we will at least get some good info on a very muddled D1 vote count.  Besides, he's my second scummy read at this point and I stand behind my reasons for voting him.  I would have rather lynched TG because scumbad; however, my #2 scumbad being lynched and his alignment revealed, either way, will help me consolidate my previous reads better.

 

I am wary of anyone who goes out of their way to post how they don't agree with the lynch but they are humbly and regretfully lynching them for the greater good.  Those people are usually scumbads trying to explain why they have a vote on a player they know will flip town BEFORE they do.

[Myndrunner]

I'm also wary of how no bigger-sized trains were forming. That there were few players around the deadline is unfortunately not that telling because the timing is really inconvenient for americans - but still.

 

Yeah, but everyone knew the deadline was approaching. They could have chimed in before sleepytime.

 

I personally don't like Hybrid Hammer because it takes away the sense of urgency in voting.  Players like TG can unvote and sit back without blood on his hands. 

[csarmi]

@Mynd: I think I was being very up front about how I don't feel either Len or NB would be a good lynch. I'm trying to work my head around this stuff BTW and ... I doubt the mafia wouldn't have been able to get a good enough competing train going. But my BFG is smarter, she'll figure this out.

[csarmi]

 

I'm also wary of how no bigger-sized trains were forming. That there were few players around the deadline is unfortunately not that telling because the timing is really inconvenient for americans - but still.

 

Yeah, but everyone knew the deadline was approaching. They could have chimed in before sleepytime.

 

I personally don't like Hybrid Hammer because it takes away the sense of urgency in voting.  Players like TG can unvote and sit back without blood on his hands.

 

No they bloody well may not. Every single vote counts with Hybrid hammer. Not voting is a very serious stuff to do: and we'll have the trains analyze later.

[Myndrunner]

@TG - With such strong opinions in this game, why u no vote?

[csarmi]

@Mynd - also I want people to take stances and reasonings BEFORE the flip... I'm sure you can see why that's a pro-town thing to do right?

[Xthrax]

The entire company was in an uproar. Last night someone had put in a virus in the mainframe which promptly caused the entire system of programs to break down. The word was out and stocks were going down, the company was steadily going into loss. Fingers were pointed, groups were formed and accusations were made. Alan was standing aside from the argument and on his computer trying to figure out what happened. Suddenly people surged up behind him and started accusing him of trying to bring the company down. 

 

The word got out and he was summoned by the CEO. He protested that he hadn't done anything but was ignored. An hour later he walked out of the door and news began to spread that he was forced to resign.

  

The curious thing was he had not signed off the mainframe.    

 

Lenlo, Alan Bradley, Vanilla Town was lynched.

[Myndrunner]

@Mynd - also I want people to take stances and reasonings BEFORE the flip... I'm sure you can see why that's a pro-town thing to do right?

 

I guess.  Its a variation of what I was trying to do just now.  I get funny about players who publicly state how they don't agree with this lynch but do it anyway. 

 

I am actually surprised that Lenlo flipped town the way he's been acting.  Curious about those who had a solid townread on him based on his earlier reactions.

 

And the fact that we had such a weak votecount strikes me curious.   Notice that TG didn't vote at all.

[csarmi]

@Mynd - I added the 4th vote on Len's train so that no sneak-votes can change the flow of actions there. A pretty strong statement that I'm willing to lynch him at that point. I did it at T-10 to make sure there's plenty of time left. Also I clarified I'd still feel much better about lynching Darthe and rally there if we got consensus.

[Xthrax]

Deadline for Night-http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140726T1815&p0=438&msg=End+of+Night+1

[Lenlo]

Bah.

 

H8 u all.

[Xthrax]

Len will be helping me with the VC's from now on.

[Tommyrod]

 

 

@Rand, @Mynd - how do you guys feel about Drunk?

He seems to be keeping pace with the game alright. I was hoping he would have answered my question by now seeing as he was just here. I wanted his response BEFORE I moved my vote to Lenlo to try and see where he tried to steer me. He hasn't really done anything scummy that others haven't already done in this game. Not unvoting Lenlo could mean that he is mafia with NotBob and you (or one of the two of you); however, he strikes me as not only new to the culture here at DM but obviously working alone, therefore not on anyone's mafia QT.

Mynd,

 

What makes you think this?

[Tommyrod]

Level 1 analysis says Salami looks good for his attempt to consolidate votes onto someone that might be scum and being visibly uncomfortable with spread wagons. Drunk looks bad for leaving his vote on Lenlo for the entire day and making no attempt to stir the pot. His original vote for Len was wolfy. NotBob looks null to bad for the no-discussion pop-in vote after Salami coalesced. Mynd's energy went way up at EOD, maybe slight town points for that.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

@Rand, @Mynd - how do you guys feel about Drunk?

He seems to be keeping pace with the game alright. I was hoping he would have answered my question by now seeing as he was just here. I wanted his response BEFORE I moved my vote to Lenlo to try and see where he tried to steer me. He hasn't really done anything scummy that others haven't already done in this game. Not unvoting Lenlo could mean that he is mafia with NotBob and you (or one of the two of you); however, he strikes me as not only new to the culture here at DM but obviously working alone, therefore not on anyone's mafia QT.

Mynd,

 

What makes you think this?

 

 

If Drunk Tank was on a mafia QT, I would think he'd be getting advice from other players on how to blend in better with the rest of us.  Maybe I'm reading too much into him, but his posts don't seem coached.  If a new to DM player acted more comfortable than he/she should, I would suspect them to be mafia with others who are more familiar with DM to be whispering in his/her ear.  His posts strike me as one who is making his own cases and not really working with anyone else.  

 

I guess I would expect a DM outsider who is playing his/her first mafia game here to either act exactly like an outsider (as he seems to be) or act all too comfortable here (like one who has a mafia QT would do). 

 

To reference a previous mafia game that shall not be named, I noticed that Dawn (who was mafia) seemed a lot more confident and her posts made a lot more sense than normal.  I FOS'd her as to being coached by fellow mafia players because....she made too much sense.  Although she denied it, sure enough....she was mafia.  Granted, I think I did more damage to the town than the mafia did in that game, but still, I was right.  People tend to post differently when they have other people in their ear.

 

Or play mafia like me and ignore the Mafia QT until you have to apologize for getting the whole team screwed.