[Basic]TRON Mafia Game-Day 4

[Tommyrod]

Mynd, your "case" is terribad.  I'm putting it in quotations because it doesn't even rise to the level of a real case.  I expected more from you.  I'll tear it apart when I get back from my next meeting.  Hold your breath.

Now I look kinda dumb. Unless we planned this in scum chat!?

[Tommyrod]

TG's response seems a tad dramatic.

 

That's a good word for his behavior in this game so far actually. Dramatic. Unbefitting a physicist!

[Lenlo]

TG's response seems a tad dramatic.

 

That's a good word for his behavior in this game so far actually. Dramatic. Unbefitting a physicist!

Unless you happen to be on a TV show about physicist's. I can see it now, a season of the Bachelor requiring a Doctorate from every contestant.

[Tommyrod]

Ha ha.

[Myndrunner]

Mynd, your "case" is terribad.  I'm putting it in quotations because it doesn't even rise to the level of a real case.  I expected more from you.  I'll tear it apart when I get back from my next meeting.  Hold your breath.

 

Scumtwin powers activate!  Did you guys.....ahem....plan that tag team in your mafia QT thread?

 

Statements like "I expected more from you" is exactly what a squirmy scum would say.  When we go back to the raw nature of a townie and a scum, townies press for information while scum discredit, distract, and disinform. 

 

It's a knee-jerk scum reaction to try and talk down to a townie who is on to them.  They don't want anyone else to actually consider the case as proper. 

 

Also, notice how neither Lenlo nor TG even consider the chance that I am scum and trying to lead a lynch on a townie.  Why? Because they know I'm town.  How do they know this?  They are not.

 

My case is just that.  Mine.  The rest of the town can take it or leave it, but I think we've found ourselves TWO scummies already. 

[Myndrunner]

But stay tuned for TG to shred my case to shreds by shredding it!!!!  When he gets back from [reason for delay] so he can start shredding!

 

If it was terribad, why not just say why now?

 

/me begins to hold breath.

[csarmi]

So what's up? Anything interesting going on? What did I miss?

[Tommyrod]

*popcorn*

[Lenlo]

 

Mynd, your "case" is terribad.  I'm putting it in quotations because it doesn't even rise to the level of a real case.  I expected more from you.  I'll tear it apart when I get back from my next meeting.  Hold your breath.

 

Scumtwin powers activate!  Did you guys.....ahem....plan that tag team in your mafia QT thread?

 

Statements like "I expected more from you" is exactly what a squirmy scum would say.  When we go back to the raw nature of a townie and a scum, townies press for information while scum discredit, distract, and disinform. 

 

It's a knee-jerk scum reaction to try and talk down to a townie who is on to them.  They don't want anyone else to actually consider the case as proper. 

 

Also, notice how neither Lenlo nor TG even consider the chance that I am scum and trying to lead a lynch on a townie.  Why? Because they know I'm town.  How do they know this?  They are not.

 

My case is just that.  Mine.  The rest of the town can take it or leave it, but I think we've found ourselves TWO scummies already. 

 

Yup, I in no way think you might be scum pushing a lynch on a towny other than my FoS and question at you about how I think at this point you are trying to distract people from any case other than you own, such as my WoT, with poorly made and backed up cases that assume a level of planning unprecedented so far with those your accusing.

 

Tommy how much butter did you put on that, cause I want some.

[Tommyrod]

So what's up? Anything interesting going on? What did I miss?

Mynd thinks TG is lock scum. Mynd's case on TG is a bit contrived but TG's reaction to it was bad. Considering I've agreed with Mynd several times so far ITG and I've noticed TG has felt a bit... erratic... I think we might have something here. But more due to unnatural emotional states than the semantics argument Mynd was forwarding.

[csarmi]

What's up with the drunk guy? Different cultures, or scummy there?

[csarmi]

Hmm. Lemme read back while still at work. Why the hell not.

[Nynaeve]

Yes, that might be a good idea. 

[Nynaeve]

I don't think Lenlo and TG would make such an obvious connection between themselves as scum.

[Tommyrod]

What's up with the drunk guy? Different cultures, or scummy there?

Experience says he's trolling too hard to be scum. Having never played with him, I don't know for sure. He could just be the type to troll regardless of alignment. But both TG and Rand have declared him a bad vote for today for dubious reasons, so I think a flip from either of them can tell us more about the Drunkard.

[Tommyrod]

Nyn, you feel a bit... reserved. Usually you're making little quips at everyone, all the time.

 

What's up?

[Drunk Tank]

What's up with the drunk guy? Different cultures, or scummy there?

He has strarted derinking.

[RandA lThor]

Mobile starts needing to have a multiquote option.

 

Preview of upcoming defense and attack: Lenlo also only showed one scummy post in his case

 

Mynds case on TG is good, TG and Lenlo link is bad, TG reaction is worse

 

Also to Lenlo, I have tried to respond to everything, but I might have actually missed something. Its not like Im avpiding peoples attacks lol.

 

Ill address in more detail when I get to a computer

[Darthe]

Sorry I've been gone a couple of days.  Life got in the way and that's all that needs to be said for now.  

 

We've gained about 10 pages since I was gone ( ) so let's talk about that.  

 

First and foremost I think we can successfully summate this from today:

 

Vos is prob town here

Clov too

Rand too

TG is likely town

Tommy is likely town (people asked me why for this read earlier, it is mainly because his tone and WIM here is consistent with what I am used to from townmmy)

I've dropped my other reads since they've become muddled

 

Game on.  Vote Rand

 

Scummy, opportunistic trying to hard to avoid conflict.

It's ironic that nobb (notbob) calls rand opportunistic here and explains his own vote away with the bold.  This post provided nothing beneficial to the discussion, not even thoughts beyond "Rand bad".  I, to be clear, don't think the vote is a bad one.  I think his throwaway reasoning is godawful and will probably come back to this should we see a town rand flip in the future.  

 

 

Game on.  Vote Rand

 

Scummy, opportunistic trying to hard to avoid conflict.

 

Bring it on Not Bob.

 

Looks town for rand.  Keeping in mind that his scum game is by and large the worst I know of (no offense rand) I don't think he would stand up to Nobb like this as scum.  

 

 

I didn't like Vos myself. Soemthing about the way he's been joking

 

 

Pfft, you're just making wishy-washy negative statements on me because I'm onto you. 

 

Csarmi/BFG is totally overplaying fake scumhunting, prodding and cheerfulness-joking around in-thread. 

 

!!!!!!!111

 

Tommy, Darthe, Mynd is looking town. 

 

Bit more unsure of Nyn/Hally

 

BGCsarmi on top (or bottom, depending on how you see it)

 

Xthrax is looking überscummy. Not ready to commit yet though. 

 

This is why I think vos is likely town in almost any scenario this game.  A bit early for this sort of read but I really love this post.  He is relaxed (joke at the end of the post specifically says that), his reads are decent (I disagree with mynd and am not sure how he got such a quick read on Tommy and I since he hasn't played with us as much), mainly I love his point on Salami.  It's an echo of my own (or is mine an echo of his since he put it on screen first?) Which is that Salami is making this terribly concerted effort to squeeze out reads and look like he is making progress.  Aka trying to blend = scum

 

 

 

I didn't like Vos myself. Soemthing about the way he's been joking

 

 

Pfft, you're just making wishy-washy negative statements on me because I'm onto you. 

 

Csarmi/BFG is totally overplaying fake scumhunting, prodding and cheerfulness-joking around in-thread. 

 

!!!!!!!111

 

Tommy, Darthe, Mynd is looking town. 

 

Bit more unsure of Nyn/Hally

 

BGCsarmi on top (or bottom, depending on how you see it)

 

Xthrax is looking überscummy. Not ready to commit yet though. 

 

 

FOS.

 

Fear of commitment.

 

Nobb didn't only miss that this was a joke but he never addressed it when he got called out for missing that this was a joke.  He instead brushed it off.  I've quoted this so anyone interested can go back and read it.  I anticipated something different here but it isn't scummy so much as perplexing in general.  

 

Not liking Rand's very reserved and casual response to my question. I was expecting more....Dragon......and got a tame puppy instead.

I am confused as to what this means.  

 

<3

 

I'm gonna sit in my corner and observe.

 

 

best tr is actually Mynd right now, so [unvote]

Rand looks like weak town imo.  This helps push that.  I could be wrong but I am picking the side of him as town on this post, he historically cracks like an egg under the slightest of pressure but in this game he is so much more relaxed than I would expect.  

 

 

Not a fan of TG deciding that TD deserves some kind of free pass today. I don't care if someone is new. Not even sure why he brought it up.... unless he finds him suspicious? Because if he doesn't, then why even mention him?

 

For as long as I've played on DM new players are pushed D1, coached D1, engaged D1, but not lynched D1.  Your weak wanna-be FOS is a weak wanna-be FOS.

 

 

 

 

Avenue of Productive Discussion.

 

Day One will almost always result in the lynching of a townie simply because of odds (we all know this). My focus thus far has not been so much on the discussion between Clov, Vos, and RandA. I've been more watching those lurking.

 

Scum will participate early on just enough and let town lynch town. I have a tendency/prefer to lynch lurkers.

 

This is DM. We tend to lynch scum on D1 around here.

 

So what do you think of those who didn't participate much so far?

 

This was a neutral, slight positive at best, but I'm quoting it because it does concern me that my salami read could be wrong.  

 

Darthe seems to have not committed to the game just yet.

 

On the other hand Lenlo interacts with several different posts/players with only fluffy comments. I see more potential here. 

 

[v]Lenlo[/v]

Wish DT(f) hadn't made this post.  I had essentially nothing on him (also, he doesn't fit my thoughts about the scum team) but with not meta it's tough to not call him out on a post like this.  Really simply weak reasoning for his thoughts.  It's like he is forcing himself to express an opinion.  

 

Scum team:
Salami

Notbob

 

Scummy:

Mynd (only by association to my reads, I have nothing personally on him but I expect to have town leans on him by this point when he is town, aka potential tinfoil)

DT

[Darthe]

I don't think Lenlo and TG would make such an obvious connection between themselves as scum.

I agree but that's a base statement for you.  Really safe to say.

 

Mobile starts needing to have a multiquote option.

 

Preview of upcoming defense and attack: Lenlo also only showed one scummy post in his case

 

Mynds case on TG is good, TG and Lenlo link is bad, TG reaction is worse

 

Also to Lenlo, I have tried to respond to everything, but I might have actually missed something. Its not like Im avpiding peoples attacks lol.

 

Ill address in more detail when I get to a computer

Good post for Rand.  

 

Forgot to vote in that MQ [unvote][v]salami[/v]

[csarmi]

Rand makes my head hurt. So do nested quotes.

[Lenlo]

Heres 2 more scummy posts Rand. I didnt include them fully before cause I didnt wanna flood my post with large quotes, but since you  asked:

 

 

 

Rand,

What's up? Are you scum? Should I lynch you today?

If I get lynched right when I join a game/game starts, I'm going to flip a table.  Then, I'm going to get up... and flip another table.

 

But to answer your questions

 

Gonna go on my XBOX, yes of course, no it makes me haz sad

 

Been thinking about Rand's rage vote on me, apparently using a situation from another game as a reason. 

 

At first, I chose not to respond to it and fight the urge to OMGUS vote.

 

Then, I ate an orange.  Tasted good, but then my hands were sticky.  And not stick in the fun way.

 

Washed my hands.  Dried them.   Thought about the good ole days. 

 

But then that nagging suspicion crept back into my noggin. 

 

Why would Rand need to go to such lengths to justify his vote in this game?  Sure, day 1 randomness is random but.....he placed his vote on a player he felt no one would question his motives on.  Why....that would require a preset guilty conscience BEFORE he posted. 

 

So.....@Rand.  Why the need to OVER justify your reason for voting me? 

For people who weren't in the game, its a slight pet peeve when people vote someone like that without explanation, I wasn't in the game so I hound them on it, and then I get called out for it.

 

 

Rand,

What's up? Are you scum? Should I lynch you today?

 

This game would just be so much easier if we all just ask eachother if they are scum, and lynch the people who said yes.

 

 

Then, I ate an orange.  Tasted good, but then my hands were sticky.  And not stick in the fun way.

 

 

!!!

 

:shakeshead:  Ohh vos.

 

and  at your reaction to Mynd's comment

 

Rand would say yes nomatter what. Lol

This is why I  you.  Please kill a lot of scum this game too.

 

 

 

 

Not liking Rand's very reserved and casual response to my question. I was expecting more....Dragon......and got a tame puppy instead.

come to JN and its more lax rules and I'll give you more... Dragon. :P

 

Don't women usually feel the same way after getting it on with you? =)

 

 

Don't women usually feel the same way after getting it on with you? =)

 

Nah that happens before, and they call it foreplay. 

 

They only say that to save your feelings.

 

Drunk, Rand, the funny characters guy. Those are the three I would smite with my sword.

who's the funny characters guy?

 

[unvote]
[v]Darthe[/v]

Way to destroy the string of 1-vote trains you scumster.

 

 

 

[Tommyrod]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Avenue of Productive Discussion.

 

Day One will almost always result in the lynching of a townie simply because of odds (we all know this). My focus thus far has not been so much on the discussion between Clov, Vos, and RandA. I've been more watching those lurking.

 

Scum will participate early on just enough and let town lynch town. I have a tendency/prefer to lynch lurkers.

This is DM. We tend to lynch scum on D1 around here.

 

So what do you think of those who didn't participate much so far?

I'm rereading at the moment.

 

But I will place my vote on either Lenlo or Darthe.

If you could advance the case against Darthe and say...get him to L-1...I'd hammer.

Darthe, ^ ?

[csarmi]

I'd like to see more from Nyn/Hallia.

[Xthrax]

Official Vote Count-Day 1

 

BFArmi-(1/7)-Darthe

Tommy-(1/7)-NotBob

TG-(1/7)-Mynd

Darthe-(2/7)-TG, BFArmi

RandA lThor-(3/7)-Vos, Tommy, Lenlo 

Lenlo-(1/7)-Drunk Tank

 

Not Voting(3/12)- Clov, Nynlia, RandA lThor

 

12 Alive, takes 7 to Lynch

 

Deadline-http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/generic?iso=20140724T1715&p0=438&msg=End+of+Day+1&csz=1