[Advanced] Blackhoof's Cthulhu Mythos Mafia Game- Day 1

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Dap, Darthe, maybe you and maybe Mynd for constantly going back and forth on my alignment in a not-convincing manner.

lol terrible

How?

 

Also: I'm not a fan of your endless one liner "look at me catching up!" posts. You're cluttering up the thread and it's not helpful in any way.

 

 

All of those scum reads except for Mynd are totally opportunistic.  As for the one-liners, it's how I roll.  I don't like to use too many words and it provides a concrete thought process.  If you stopped posting so much drivel, this wouldn't be nearly as tedious as it is.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

Have you read the page vomit yet?

 

Just took me almost 1.5 hours to get to here.  This sucks.

 

Elaborate plx

 

 

I wanted to catch up in less than an hour.  This is also one of the worst reads ever given all the crap Tommy is flinging.

[Tommyrod]

[v]Tommy[/v]

 

*** Hard claim ***

 

I am a PARANOID GUN OWNER. If a townie tries to investigate me, they will DIE. Given my current position in this game it is safer to just lynch me and confirm my role that way. My hope was to push a scum lynch on Dap and draw the night kill and take the offending scum with me, but it now seems that won't be possible thanks to tweedle darthe and tweedle des. Given that, I don't know what else to do but claim and kill myself.

 

Great job guys, seriously. Top tier playing all around.

 

I hope you at least take my reads into consideration. I believe my blue colored town leans were correct.

NOBODY SHOULD BE VOTING OFF MY WAGON. SPEED LYNCH ME, SERIOUSLY.

 

The amount of resistance I received after I posted my reads list has been MASSIVE and I believe there's multiple scum behind it: most likely Darthe and Wombat, but especially Wombat.

 

I suggest cop clears the unknowns who are incapable of defending themselves.

 

Good luck with the rest, you'll need it. Worst town I've ever seen.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Dap, Darthe, maybe you and maybe Mynd for constantly going back and forth on my alignment in a not-convincing manner.

lol terrible

You're cluttering up the thread 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I lol'd IRL

[Tommyrod]

Suggest you all listen to Red after I'm dead, despite her bipolar disorder she's had her head on straight more than most players ITT.

[hazelkrs1]

analyzing the Dap case, atleast what i could peace together.  some parts might be missing as i did this as i was catching up rather than going over the thread with a fine tooth comb.

 

overall i have to say Dap going at Len like that still reeks, but town's can do reeky things.  his wagon OTOH built ubber fast and some votes on him make my hair stand on end (like Mynd and RTE's)

 

on the flip side, i dislike Daps disappearing act when the bullets started flying his way, and Darthe is pushing hardcore for it and plainly my gut is saying not to trust Darth atm.

 

 

TL;DR version ...  too much WIFOM and not enough info to make him a viable lynch candidate for today, espeially with better candidates like Despo skiving by without any pressure.

 

 

WHY DO MORE PEOPLE NOT SEE RED FOR THE SUPER OBVIOUS SCUM THAT SHE IS?!?!?!?!?!?!1

 

So she freaking says Dap train built fast and blah blahblah but then IMMEDIATELY hedges on that and says she doesn't like his disappearing act when bullets started flying his way....

 

EVEN THO THIS IS PATENTLY FALSE!!!!!!!

 

Dap disappeared LONG before the sudden train built on him. It wasn't like he was around and posting then started getting pressure and dipped.

 

NO! THAT DID NOTTTTTT HAPPEN!!!!!

 

Look, I've seen Red incredibly wrong many, many, MANY times as town. I get that. But I've NEVER seen Red misrep other players and events in the thread to THIS degree before as town. EVER!

 

Then, after this she proceeds to quote every Dap vote and says it pings.... EVEN THO SHE'S STILL SAYING DAP COULD BE SCUM!!!

 

 

 

Hey Tommy, that post above?  

 

 

I concur

 

 

 

She probably is town...

 

Nope. Reread her and watch how she fabricates a scum read on Tommy, then tries leading town into setting up competing trains on the two of us, then starts acting like every post has her more and more convinced that Tommy is town after all.

 

Obvious scummates bro.

 

 

@ Darthe - you still get a town feel from him even after this?? 

 

he's still trying to paint me as trying to set up a thunderdome between him and Tommy.  talk about out dated reads man.

 

Red- are you SERIOUSLY going to act like you didn't try setting up competing trains between Tommy and I? Are you ACTUALLY that convinced you can get away with this slimy of a game?

 

I wasn't saying you STILL advocated a thunderdome between us, in fact quite the contrary- I was showing how you were scum for the OBVIOUS distancing maneuver coupled with you immediately getting buddy buddy with him right after (and eventually saying he looked more town blah blah blah)

 

I mean... what world do you live in where you think you can misrep events this obviously without being called out on it?

 

Oh gawd.  

 

This was you realizing Red might be scum after all, wasn't it?

 

 

Do you have any scum reads that aren't associative other than Tommy?  Just wondering.

 

 

I'll admit I don't commonly have this many associative reads on D1, but I think this game is a little unique considering the events that Cory and his outburst set forth.

 

 

Who are your top three and bottom three. Soul read, go.

Almost certainly town, my lock town soul reads:

Red

Dawn

Tsuki

Vos

 

 

Most likely scum:

Dap

You

Wombat

 

After that it gets fuzzy.

 

I have many more confident town leans than confident scum leans, but that's O.K.

 

I don't need to solve the entire game on D1, I just need to find the best lynch. I REALLY think it's Dap.

 

 

Uh.... what happened to your INSANE STRONG town read of RTE that you've been raving about for I don't know how long, including immediately before this post?

 

What am I saying, you're freaking LOCK SCUM. Moving on.

 

 

Darthe is right RTE, you did just claim scum

 

Scummers that fall for the trap of "Look how many times this guy has been wrong" make me laugh.

 

Expose yourself moar scum team, please and thanks. Mebbe eventually it will be enough for them to wake up and see what Darthe and I already do

 

You used to use that line on me 100% of the time regardless of alignment.  Just sayin'.

 

 

When I used it regarding you it was in a meta sense- as in you used to struggle to read me (you still might, if it turns out you were town after all)

 

RTE was talking about in THIS game, as in he was automatically assuming Darthe to be town

 

 

 

Lol what are Darthe and Despo going to say when I flip town AGAIN?

 

Despo should just concede to not being able to read me. Period.

Oh look, RTE claiming scum again.

 

RTE, did you forget you were supposed to still think o might be scum?

 

 

Great point here actually.  RTE completely ignoring the possibility that Darthe is scum seems pretty sketch given all the back and forth.

 

 

Uh.... didn't you JUST downplay this exact reasoning?

 

*looks at quote posted above*

 

Yup, you did.

 

Just when I was thinking you might not be as scummy as I thought...

 

 

And Tommy, Dap is LOCK CLEAR town because of Red's scummy scummy misrep of him.

 

But oh wait you're acting like she's def town

 

 

Terrible reason to LOCK CLEAR someone.  Skill up.

 

 

No it isn't, not when I have seen legit tons of evidence indicating Red to be scum. Also, Tommy voted Dap... then started "reading" the thread and started justifying his vote on Dap after the fact, then afterwards acted like Dap was the scummiest player ITT. Oh and RTE switched from me to Dap even tho he acted like I was still LOCK SCUM (even tho not too long after that he acted like I was definite town)

 

So yeah, NOT a terrible reason to LOCK CLEAR Dap.

 

 

Nope. Reread her and watch how she fabricates a scum read on Tommy, then tries leading town into setting up competing trains on the two of us, then starts acting like every post has her more and more convinced that Tommy is town after all.

 

Obvious scummates bro.

 

 

Red fabricates scum reads on everyone.  It's what she does.

 

 

Doesn't explain everything else that makes her look so scummy

 

I can't remember getting this much rush from pushing a lynch since I took down DPR.

 

 

I remember that game (of course I do). Interestingly enough, that was prob the last time we worked together to #wreck the scum team together.

 

And we woulda steamrolled them too, were it not for the setup being CRAZY slanted against town, and if I had fake CC'ed Verbal's fake Cop claim like I was considering

 

 

For me, the scummiest thing he has done was try to be sneaky about unvoting RTE. I can understand that your perspective might be skewed because you are on the block, but its kinda hard to be the scummiest player in the thread when you aren't saying anything. His inactivity doesn't clear him, but right now we need to go with the lynch that gives us the most info.

 

What info would we get if Dap flips scum?

 

What info would we get if Dap flips town?

 

We gotta go with the lynch that gives us more bang for our buck, and right now, IMO, that's between you and RTE.

Every time I try to put pressure on Dap someone from the AIDS brigade swoops in to smear me again. Is that... not at all weird to you?

 

If he was town, he would be a TRIVIAL mislynch. Why the active and vocal resistance to Dap but not to RTE? I'm the only one defending RTE.

 

 

The hilarious thing is, if you really think about it-

 

YOU brought the AIDS here Tommy. No one but YOU.

 

YOU drove Cory to MK himself.

 

YOU continuously disparaged my skill level and play till I freaking wanted to opt out.

 

YOU started dropping F bombs and in general acted like ANYONE who suspected you was automatically a terrible player.

 

YOU'RE THE AIDS IN THIS GAME TOMMY.

 

 

@Wombat - do you still believe that Tommy doesn't flail under pressure?  What is your current read on Tommy at this point?

 

Lol u got me there.  He was much better at this the time I was scum with him and in the Red Wedding game.

 

 

I disagree. I think Tommy was insane obvious scum in the Red Wedding game, especially after Cory died (due to Docfail of the year).

 

By the by, never in my life would I come into a game and thunderdome Cory as scum. I would just buddy him and we'd both go "#Alliance GOAT" and move on. SO much less mess that way.

 

The incredibly frustrating thing here is, Tommy actually has a point here. And while Darthe is right in that "I wouldn't do _____ as scum" arguments are terrible, in general it's MUCH easier for scum!Tommy to continue the #Alliance charade and NK Cory later, letting him build a power "town" group and lead town off a cliff

 

HOWEVER

 

I do think this game is different, considering by the time Tommy even showed up, Cory was already in a pretty big hole. Not too crazy at ALL to think scum!Tommy could have seen that and just bandwagoned onto it to push Cory out of the game asap

 

 

I mean seriously wombat. "You scum coward?" Did you just graduate from kindergarten? Who writes like that! Lol

 

I do.  Because you're craven mafia.

 

 

True story:

 

I first saw the word "Craven" on a MTG card when I was really little, and the word sounded really cool and the card looked cool (it was a creature called "Craven Knight"). So I thought craven sounded all badass and MEANT you were badass... till I found out years later what the actual meaning was

 

 

 

 

Dap, Darthe, maybe you and maybe Mynd for constantly going back and forth on my alignment in a not-convincing manner.

lol terrible

How?

 

Also: I'm not a fan of your endless one liner "look at me catching up!" posts. You're cluttering up the thread and it's not helpful in any way.

 

 

 

Oh Tommy, thank you for that. I needed that laugh after everything else in this game.

 

You WERE joking, I can only assume, since calling someone else out for what you were doing yourself NOT TOO LONG AGO, seems even too oblivious of the blatant hypocrisy there, even for you.

[Darthe]

Gung-ho!  [unvote] [v] Tommy [/v]

[WWWwombat]

When do we lynch RTE?  

 

Let me catch up FFS

[Tommyrod]

Shut up and lynch me, Des.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

 

 

And Tommy, Dap is LOCK CLEAR town because of Red's scummy scummy misrep of him.

 

But oh wait you're acting like she's def town

 

Terrible reason to LOCK CLEAR someone. Skill up.

It's just STUPID. Red isn't scum. So dap is lock clear because red is town? Okay Des. Great job.

Nice try but dumping on Des to look town ain't gonna work anymore.

What are you even talking about??

 

How are you not scum here?

 

Darthe, are you seeing the pure diarrhea he's spewing today?

 

I see dogmatic views.  I don't see diarrhea.

 

 

Plz explain.  You know I try to be open-minded.  It is kinda hard this game tho.

[Tommyrod]

Gung-ho! [unvote] [v] Tommy [/v]

Thank you. Death will be sweet release from the hell that has been this game.

 

Cthulu wins, everyone else loses.

[WWWwombat]

 

Tommy, you're advocating not locking reads on people but then you're annoyed when people fluctuate on their read on you? :P

The point is this:

 

If someone is acting MORE townlike than they were, adjust that read.

 

I can only be seen as more townlike than I was earlier in the game because I'm posting my ass off and I am town. Therefore, my posts are townie posts. Therefore, I should be read as town.

 

It's not rocket science.

 

 

And yet you're criticizing me for adjusting my read on you.  Doesn't really make sense imo.

[Tommyrod]

Hey Wombat: shut up and lynch me.

[hazelkrs1]

Oh look. Tommy claimed PGO, the most famous scum fake claim of them all

 

 

Also, Wombat was COMPLETELY right in that Tommy's scum "reads" have been entirely based on his current situation and how he thought he could best clear pressure off himself.

 

Also, Tommy trying to have us place COMPLETE faith in surefire scum Red is just lololololol

 

Basically, town or scum Tommy is an insanely good lynch today. He brought AIDS into this game, and is legit awful this game. "Reads" are complete garbage. Entirely focused on himself instead of scumhunting.

 

Let's get this over with.

[Tommyrod]

Great. Do it.

 

This whole thread is goddamn frozen. Wombat has yet to respond to my claim

[hazelkrs1]

In the event that Tommy flips scum btw, Wombat suddenly going gung ho on his lynch doesn't clear him. Just wanna make that clear.

 

Tommy, get #wreckt man. Seriously. If you turn out to be the scum I've thought you were for forever now, you slipped so bad this game it was crazy. And in the off chance you actually flip town, your play and reads are just turrible this game. After disparaging my play for so long, nothing satisfies me better than seeing that no matter how you flip, your play has been legit poor this game.

 

Is this extremely petty of me, to be shoving it in Tommy's face like this? Obviously. But his trolling posts calling me lolbad before freaking about made me take another hiatus from mafia they were in such poor taste.

 

(I haven't forgotten who jumped on that "LOL DESPOT IS BAD" bandwagon btw- you're next RTE and Red, and Tsuki as well since I remember you joining in)

[WWWwombat]

That team won before the game began.  You all did mess up though =p  Wasn't Des a forth member or something?

 

 

No.  It was you me and Des pushing the DPR lynch.  Then they nightkilled us and went full anti-bus.

[Tommyrod]

Hey Des, maybe after my flip you'll learn how to reason with someone and stop shoving your head up your own ass a little deeper with each subsequent post?

 

Over the past months I've lost respect for your game. You're often the loudest player but frequently seem to have the most tenuous grasp on basic concepts, like what is scummy and what isn't.

 

Come play with me on other sites and I'll show you how it's done. You've been a big fish in a small pond for too long and it's made you into a predictable and poor player.

 

Just FYI. It's concern coming from a good place. Hope to see some improvements in your game over the next few months since you've been static for about half a year now. Can't improve your game until you admit there's something wrong.

 

Good luck. LMK if you wanna play on 2+2 with me or something, it's fun.

[Tommyrod]

In the event that Tommy flips scum btw, Wombat suddenly going gung ho on his lynch doesn't clear him. Just wanna make that clear.

 

Tommy, get #wreckt man. Seriously. If you turn out to be the scum I've thought you were for forever now, you slipped so bad this game it was crazy. And in the off chance you actually flip town, your play and reads are just turrible this game. After disparaging my play for so long, nothing satisfies me better than seeing that no matter how you flip, your play has been legit poor this game.

 

Is this extremely petty of me, to be shoving it in Tommy's face like this? Obviously. But his trolling posts calling me lolbad before freaking about made me take another hiatus from mafia they were in such poor taste.

 

(I haven't forgotten who jumped on that "LOL DESPOT IS BAD" bandwagon btw- you're next RTE and Red, and Tsuki as well since I remember you joining in)

LOL, I can guarantee my reads have been better than yours. You kind of blow lately.

[WWWwombat]

[v]Tommy[/v]

 

*** Hard claim ***

 

I am a PARANOID GUN OWNER. If a townie tries to investigate me, they will DIE. Given my current position in this game it is safer to just lynch me and confirm my role that way. My hope was to push a scum lynch on Dap and draw the night kill and take the offending scum with me, but it now seems that won't be possible thanks to tweedle darthe and tweedle des. Given that, I don't know what else to do but claim and kill myself.

 

Great job guys, seriously. Top tier playing all around.

 

I hope you at least take my reads into consideration. I believe my blue colored town leans were correct.

 

If you're actually town, you had a terrible game from start to finish and should own it.

[hazelkrs1]

Speaking of Tsuki- someone quoted an earlier post of mine so I DO remember some early stuff about him that looked questionable (the way he was handling Dawn early on)

 

So if Wombat actually might be town here, Tsuki can take his spot.

 

And in case Tommy actually DOES flip town, then yeah Mynd will look more questionable in my eyes, for the stuff Tommy pointed out about that Napoleon Dynamite gif (mebbe one of the few times Tommy made any actual good point this game)

[Tommyrod]

I mean the Cory thing was stupid and I should have read the thread before condemning him, but he was acting like scum Cory for the first few pages and I got cocky and thought I could nail him ASAP because I was like 4/4 on him in the past month. My bad on that front.

 

BUT MY TOWN READS SHOULD BE SOLID.

[hazelkrs1]

Hey Des, maybe after my flip you'll learn how to reason with someone and stop shoving your head up your own ass a little deeper with each subsequent post?

 

Over the past months I've lost respect for your game. You're often the loudest player but frequently seem to have the most tenuous grasp on basic concepts, like what is scummy and what isn't.

 

Come play with me on other sites and I'll show you how it's done. You've been a big fish in a small pond for too long and it's made you into a predictable and poor player.

 

Just FYI. It's concern coming from a good place. Hope to see some improvements in your game over the next few months since you've been static for about half a year now. Can't improve your game until you admit there's something wrong.

 

Good luck. LMK if you wanna play on 2+2 with me or something, it's fun.

 

 

 

In the event that Tommy flips scum btw, Wombat suddenly going gung ho on his lynch doesn't clear him. Just wanna make that clear.

 

Tommy, get #wreckt man. Seriously. If you turn out to be the scum I've thought you were for forever now, you slipped so bad this game it was crazy. And in the off chance you actually flip town, your play and reads are just turrible this game. After disparaging my play for so long, nothing satisfies me better than seeing that no matter how you flip, your play has been legit poor this game.

 

Is this extremely petty of me, to be shoving it in Tommy's face like this? Obviously. But his trolling posts calling me lolbad before freaking about made me take another hiatus from mafia they were in such poor taste.

 

(I haven't forgotten who jumped on that "LOL DESPOT IS BAD" bandwagon btw- you're next RTE and Red, and Tsuki as well since I remember you joining in)

LOL, I can guarantee my reads have been better than yours. You kind of blow lately.

 

 

Funny thing is Tommy- you couldn't be more wrong about me and my reads lately. I have been spitting hot fire lately in fingering scum.

 

Granted, I think at times it's been more luck than skill (Cory found a new super saiyan mode for me to utilize- #LazyDes), but still- my reads have been on fire lately.

 

Your reads this game, are legit awful.

 

I will admit that I'm not nearly as effective on other sites. Part of it is that I'm so used to this format, MQ'ing is so easy, and the activity level is usually around what I prefer (I get lost in super active games easier), but also I think I rely on meta a lot.

 

That being said, I'd take you up on your offer if you weren't so disrespectful to me this game. Even if I AM wrong about you, I wouldn't beat myself up about it. You played a TERRIBLE town game if you're town this game, and should EXPECT people to find you scummy.

 

 

[v]Tommy[/v]

 

*** Hard claim ***

 

I am a PARANOID GUN OWNER. If a townie tries to investigate me, they will DIE. Given my current position in this game it is safer to just lynch me and confirm my role that way. My hope was to push a scum lynch on Dap and draw the night kill and take the offending scum with me, but it now seems that won't be possible thanks to tweedle darthe and tweedle des. Given that, I don't know what else to do but claim and kill myself.

 

Great job guys, seriously. Top tier playing all around.

 

I hope you at least take my reads into consideration. I believe my blue colored town leans were correct.

 

If you're actually town, you had a terrible game from start to finish and should own it.

 

 

THIS.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

 

Darthe is right RTE, you did just claim scum

 

Scummers that fall for the trap of "Look how many times this guy has been wrong" make me laugh.

 

Expose yourself moar scum team, please and thanks. Mebbe eventually it will be enough for them to wake up and see what Darthe and I already do

 

You used to use that line on me 100% of the time regardless of alignment.  Just sayin'.

 

 

When I used it regarding you it was in a meta sense- as in you used to struggle to read me (you still might, if it turns out you were town after all)

 

RTE was talking about in THIS game, as in he was automatically assuming Darthe to be town

 

 

 

Lol what are Darthe and Despo going to say when I flip town AGAIN?

 

Despo should just concede to not being able to read me. Period.

Oh look, RTE claiming scum again.

 

RTE, did you forget you were supposed to still think o might be scum?

 

 

Great point here actually.  RTE completely ignoring the possibility that Darthe is scum seems pretty sketch given all the back and forth.

 

 

Uh.... didn't you JUST downplay this exact reasoning?

 

*looks at quote posted above*

 

Yup, you did.

 

Just when I was thinking you might not be as scummy as I thought...

 

 

 

Oh ok.  I thought you were talking more about the meta type thing at first.

[Tommyrod]

Also Des: my unique perspective here has revealed to me that between Darthe and Wombat, Wombat has been playing both sides far more and has this general "haha you idiots" smarmy nature to his posting, like he's laughing at the town.

 

Darthe has been posting so furiously that despite me disagreeing with him a lot, he is more likely to be town. Never seen him give even a tenth of this much effort as scum.

 

Please keep a firm eye on wombat when I die, and the other on Mynd.

 

The other scum should be almost entirely slankers.