[Basic] Eye of the World Mafia (Darkfriends win)

[Thane Vakarian]

i just got back from work, read the notifications though. Let's see who was right. Darthe scum, yay. Darthe Town, Csarmi gets it

[Darthe]

I've done a better job catching scum than you have so far =p

[csarmi]

Like there could be any doubt. I could list about five obvious reasons just since his claim...

 

But I won't.

[Myndrunner]

Sounds legit...

 

I'm pretty sure now Darthe will flip scum after these latest interactions.  He was already the lead lynch, I wonder if he tried to bait Moirane to out. 

 

This leads me to believe that TG was indeed their target last night.  Why OUT Moiraine like this if they didn't know. 

[csarmi]

I've done a better job catching scum than you have so far =p

Quite easy when they're on your role pm.

[WWWwombat]

The next day dawned with much grumbling and despair.  Houses were in ruins.  The Bel Tine bonfires were being used to burn Trolloc corpses.  But this was Emond's Field.  And although not everyone here was an Emond's Fielder, the rock-hard stubbornness of the old blood was practically contagious.  By noon, determination had turned to anger.  Clearly someone had led the Trollocs to Emond's Field.  There was no other answer for Trollocs ranging farther south from the Blight than they had in two thousand years.  The townsfolk converged on a likely candidate. His name was Darthe.

 

 

"Where were you last night, Darthe?  And why did the Trollocs show up the day after you came to town?"

 

"I was fighting of course.  And watching.  And following.  I followed Len last night.  He didn't do anything to help!"

 

"That's a lot of things to get up to in one night.  Especially without being seen doing them.  What do you say we hang you from that oak tree over there just to make sure?"

 

"Please, please, I walk in the Light.  I have been out in the world.  I am Aes Sedai with all the power of the White Tower.  I know how to fight the Shadow.  I am your only hope."

 

"Aes Sedai, eh?  You're stuck up enough for one no doubt, but I don't believe you."

 

"Indeed.  I am Aes Sedai and I know that tDarthe is not.  By the First Oath, you know this to be true."

 

 

And with that, they got some rope and hung Darthe from that huge oak out in back of the Winespring Inn.  They'd have to take there meals outside somewhere else for a while.

 

 

 

 

 

Darthe, Padan Fain, Mafia Goon has been lynched.

[WWWwombat]

It is now N2.  Night actions plz.  Night deadline will probably be sometime over the weekend.

[Krakalakachkn]

Booya

[Thane Vakarian]

good work town, and way to go csarmi.

[Myndrunner]

[Leelou]

 

heh. 

 

Let's review your thoughts on Darthe and how you were trying to divert from his lynch:

 

 

Here are my reads as of this latest run through:

 

Blue = So town it hurts         Green = leaning town               Orange = leaning scum            Red = VERY LIKELY SCUM

1.  Thane - claims cop.  Not buying it 100% based on other things I have read, but he will be undone eventually if he is a LLL.  Ask him for his reads each day.

2.  Lenlo - I see what you did there.

3.  Hallia - I really don't like her swooping in to defend Leelou's weak case against Dawn.  REEKS of scum.

4.  Dice - Dice? appearing only active when everyone else is asleep?  It's as if he lives in a different hemisphere as most of us. Total SCUM!!! /sarcasm 

5.  Leelou - (see above)  Take away the Gawyn (VT) claim and she reeks of scum and onions.  At worst, her lynch would give us a lot of info.  At best? SCUM!

6.  Verbal - I saw that! Don't think I didn't! 

7.  NotBob - I think his intuition is telling him the same things that mine is telling me.  Scarlett Johannson looks awesome naked.  Oh yeah, and Hally/Leelou are scum.

8.  Dawn Csarmi - My read on Dawn was town to begin with.  Csarmi is acting like someone who took over a town role and is scumhunting.  Which he is.

9.  Despo  - I need to case this guy on my next read through.  A couple things caught my eye regarding his votes and the reasons behind them.  Watching him close now.

10.  Mynd - TOTAL SCUM!

11.  Darthe - my most neutral read.  Not null but that I could go either way with him right now.  Scumhunting and making the same points I was thinking about. Lean town.

12.  TG, Lan Mandragoran, Town Bodyguard, killed N1 - I also would like to know if he protected last night and if so, who.  

13.  Tina: - meh.

14.  Krak - He's being Krak. 

 

Ok im off.  Talk to you all alter!

 

 

 

 

I had Mynd on my town list last post but I got an idea. What if Mynd and Verb are on a team. Mynd making accusations of Verb´s playstyle in the beginning, even though he should know that the meta is outdated. Then he is linking Leelou and Verbal and going after Leelou. If she is town then Verb will look town as well?

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 

*takes the roach from Tina and puffs twice*

 

I have an idea.  What if the world is really a dream and when we dream, its a dream inside a dream.  What if Robert Jordan, JRR Tolkein, and George RR Martin were all the same person.  What if I could fart unicorns and blow gold coins into my hankey when I sneeze?

 

Wow man.  Wow.

 

*puffs again, then passes to Halia*

 

Tina, please reread.  You may start to notice a pattern.  Some folks seem to be working together.  This lynch on Darthe stinks to high Tar Valon.  Check out Despo, Leelou, and re-read TG's posts.  If you are pro-town, you should be able to make some very solid conclusions about most of the players in this game.

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

 

Csarmi(2): Lenlo, Darthe

Hallia(2): NotBob, Mynd

Darthe(4): Csarmi, Despo, Verbal, Leelou

Mynd(2): Thane, Tina

Dice(1): Krak

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.  Deadline is TODAY at 6 PM EDT (Roughly 9.5 hours from this post).

 

I have a problem with the Darthe train because two of my top scum suspects are on the train.  Also, after multiple re-reads, I still am not completely sure why three of the four are voting him in the first place.  Leelou, on the other hand, i am quite sure this is just a "welp, no one wants to lynch tina so....Darthe." 

 

 

Csarmi seems to be looking for someone to vote onto instead of Darthe.  Csarmi, do you still think Darthe is scum or at least the best lynch choice today?

 

Despo seems to have stopped scumhunting and is too focused on just making sure the Darthe lynch goes through.    Why are you so sure he is scum?  I am fine if it is just your gut, but I'm not getting the same feeling.  I'm gonna need more convincing.

 

Verbal is acting very narrow for any kind of pro-town lean.   Verbal, who are your top 3 scum reads? Verbal, why are you NOT voting Lenlo?  What is your read on Lenlo? 

 

 

You only tried to get your vote on after it was obvious to everyone he slipped as scum. 

[Verbal32]

I agree with Leelou.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

heh. 

 

Let's review your thoughts on Darthe and how you were trying to divert from his lynch:

 

 

Here are my reads as of this latest run through:

 

Blue = So town it hurts         Green = leaning town               Orange = leaning scum            Red = VERY LIKELY SCUM

1.  Thane - claims cop.  Not buying it 100% based on other things I have read, but he will be undone eventually if he is a LLL.  Ask him for his reads each day.

2.  Lenlo - I see what you did there.

3.  Hallia - I really don't like her swooping in to defend Leelou's weak case against Dawn.  REEKS of scum.

4.  Dice - Dice? appearing only active when everyone else is asleep?  It's as if he lives in a different hemisphere as most of us. Total SCUM!!! /sarcasm 

5.  Leelou - (see above)  Take away the Gawyn (VT) claim and she reeks of scum and onions.  At worst, her lynch would give us a lot of info.  At best? SCUM!

6.  Verbal - I saw that! Don't think I didn't! 

7.  NotBob - I think his intuition is telling him the same things that mine is telling me.  Scarlett Johannson looks awesome naked.  Oh yeah, and Hally/Leelou are scum.

8.  Dawn Csarmi - My read on Dawn was town to begin with.  Csarmi is acting like someone who took over a town role and is scumhunting.  Which he is.

9.  Despo  - I need to case this guy on my next read through.  A couple things caught my eye regarding his votes and the reasons behind them.  Watching him close now.

10.  Mynd - TOTAL SCUM!

11.  Darthe - my most neutral read.  Not null but that I could go either way with him right now.  Scumhunting and making the same points I was thinking about. Lean town.

12.  TG, Lan Mandragoran, Town Bodyguard, killed N1 - I also would like to know if he protected last night and if so, who.  

13.  Tina: - meh.

14.  Krak - He's being Krak. 

 

Ok im off.  Talk to you all alter!

 

 

 

 

I had Mynd on my town list last post but I got an idea. What if Mynd and Verb are on a team. Mynd making accusations of Verb´s playstyle in the beginning, even though he should know that the meta is outdated. Then he is linking Leelou and Verbal and going after Leelou. If she is town then Verb will look town as well?

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 

*takes the roach from Tina and puffs twice*

 

I have an idea.  What if the world is really a dream and when we dream, its a dream inside a dream.  What if Robert Jordan, JRR Tolkein, and George RR Martin were all the same person.  What if I could fart unicorns and blow gold coins into my hankey when I sneeze?

 

Wow man.  Wow.

 

*puffs again, then passes to Halia*

 

Tina, please reread.  You may start to notice a pattern.  Some folks seem to be working together.  This lynch on Darthe stinks to high Tar Valon.  Check out Despo, Leelou, and re-read TG's posts.  If you are pro-town, you should be able to make some very solid conclusions about most of the players in this game.

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

 

Csarmi(2): Lenlo, Darthe

Hallia(2): NotBob, Mynd

Darthe(4): Csarmi, Despo, Verbal, Leelou

Mynd(2): Thane, Tina

Dice(1): Krak

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.  Deadline is TODAY at 6 PM EDT (Roughly 9.5 hours from this post).

 

I have a problem with the Darthe train because two of my top scum suspects are on the train.  Also, after multiple re-reads, I still am not completely sure why three of the four are voting him in the first place.  Leelou, on the other hand, i am quite sure this is just a "welp, no one wants to lynch tina so....Darthe." 

 

 

Csarmi seems to be looking for someone to vote onto instead of Darthe.  Csarmi, do you still think Darthe is scum or at least the best lynch choice today?

 

Despo seems to have stopped scumhunting and is too focused on just making sure the Darthe lynch goes through.    Why are you so sure he is scum?  I am fine if it is just your gut, but I'm not getting the same feeling.  I'm gonna need more convincing.

 

Verbal is acting very narrow for any kind of pro-town lean.   Verbal, who are your top 3 scum reads? Verbal, why are you NOT voting Lenlo?  What is your read on Lenlo? 

 

 

You only tried to get your vote on after it was obvious to everyone he slipped as scum. 

 

 

Yeah, well the counter claim helped.   Up until then, I did not see much reason to lynch him. 

[Verbal32]

^ Except that half the game disagreed, and the other half had no opinion.

[Myndrunner]

^ Except that half the game disagreed, and the other half had no opinion.

...and?

 

I'm looking at everyone.  Leelou looks a bit better by her casual vote of Darthe.  Halia doesn't look all that good now.  You of all people should know that you should be skeptical of a lynch that builds without much to go on. 

 

The counterclaim, on the other hand, was a big game changer. 

 

What are your thoughts on Halia?

[Leelou]

^^she looks really bad now.

[Verbal32]

 

^ Except that half the game disagreed, and the other half had no opinion.

...and?

 

I'm looking at everyone.  Leelou looks a bit better by her casual vote of Darthe.  Halia doesn't look all that good now.  You of all people should know that you should be skeptical of a lynch that builds without much to go on. 

 

The counterclaim, on the other hand, was a big game changer. 

 

What are your thoughts on Halia?

 

 

There were plenty of things "to go on" re: Darthe.

[Verbal32]

What are your thoughts on Halia?

 

Just re-read the whole thread.  A few people (like Darthe, Mynd, and Tina) have me waffling back and forth based on reading individual posts.  Others (like Dice & Salami) don't have much content for me to read on anything but individual posts [instead of looking as a whole].

 

Krak

Lenlo

Thane

NotBob

Leelou

Tina - flip-flopped a ton on her, but her recent theory involving Mynd and I (and Leelou) actually sounds like the town-Tina I know, even though I think the theory is nuts

Des

Salami

HALLIA

Mynd - started off VERY scummy, but has since sounded a bit better

Darthe - the person I've flip-flopped on the most outside of Tina

Dice - the only player who I have zero town points for, and only mafia points

I made her spot bold & caps.  I'm still there, but perhaps drop her a spot or two.  You're still orange as well.  And Dice is still red.  Salami moves up to green.

 

Mynd/Dice/Hallia

 

I'll take any of them tomorrow, but I'd prefer that order.

[Hallia]

Welp, I was word about him, not the first time or the last

[Krakalakachkn]

Call me paranoid [read:Marvin], but I don't want anyone to lock clear CS with Darthe's flip. That bit at the end looked suspiciously like distancing as did the Darthe/Dawn interaction at the beginning.

 

 

Not saying in reading him as scum, I still have him as leaning town/town, but I don't want him to get a free pass.

 

 

 

 

Also Thane, choose well tonight.

[Myndrunner]

 

 

^ Except that half the game disagreed, and the other half had no opinion.

...and?

 

I'm looking at everyone.  Leelou looks a bit better by her casual vote of Darthe.  Halia doesn't look all that good now.  You of all people should know that you should be skeptical of a lynch that builds without much to go on. 

 

The counterclaim, on the other hand, was a big game changer. 

 

What are your thoughts on Halia?

 

 

There were plenty of things "to go on" re: Darthe.

 

 

Like what?  Please just summarize.

[hazelkrs1]

And that, my friends, is how it's done.

 

 

Again, scum!Darthe leads us to scum!Mynd (which became even moar clear as the day went on), which leads us to... wasn't it scum!Tina? Can't recall atm. Either way Leelou and Verb are even moar insanely LOCK CLEAR (due to Darthe trying to set up Verb for a lynch with a Leelou townflip, which is what tipped me off to him incidentally), and Mynd's goose is cooked. Lemme sort back through for more.

[hazelkrs1]

Some VC analysis will also be huge for yesterday, considering the outlier votes that started coming in as Darthe's train slowly built up

[hazelkrs1]

Oh and Csarmi is like derp to the derp square for thinking A) he had to CC Darthe to get him lynched (falling for Darthe fishing for real Moiraine) and B) role claiming Doc... for no reason.... even tho the RB'er was outed. I REALLY hope that was a gambit on his part.

 

 

And oh yeah, he's prob scum, scum shouldn't kill him cause we'd totally lynch him...

 

/halfhearted wifom ftl

[hazelkrs1]

I had Mynd on my town list last post but I got an idea. What if Mynd and Verb are on a team. Mynd making accusations of Verb´s playstyle in the beginning, even though he should know that the meta is outdated. Then he is linking Leelou and Verbal and going after Leelou. If she is town then Verb will look town as well?

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 

 

 

I don't even see the code anymore. All I see is blonde, brunette, redhead

 

Tell that one to call me.

 

 

I did, and she said she's been burned by you once too many times

 

 

 

I had Mynd on my town list last post but I got an idea. What if Mynd and Verb are on a team. Mynd making accusations of Verb´s playstyle in the beginning, even though he should know that the meta is outdated. Then he is linking Leelou and Verbal and going after Leelou. If she is town then Verb will look town as well?

 

[v] Mynd [/v]

 

*takes the roach from Tina and puffs twice*

 

I have an idea.  What if the world is really a dream and when we dream, its a dream inside a dream.  What if Robert Jordan, JRR Tolkein, and George RR Martin were all the same person.  What if I could fart unicorns and blow gold coins into my hankey when I sneeze?

 

Wow man.  Wow.

 

*puffs again, then passes to Halia*

 

Tina, please reread.  You may start to notice a pattern.  Some folks seem to be working together.  This lynch on Darthe stinks to high Tar Valon.  Check out Despo, Leelou, and re-read TG's posts.  If you are pro-town, you should be able to make some very solid conclusions about most of the players in this game.

 

 

#DAT DARTHE DEFENSE

 

[v]unvote vote Warty[/v]

 

 

@Mynd

 

 

I want reasons why the Darthe train "stinks to Tar Valon."

 

Yup, Krak is still town as a mofo

 

What do you guys think of Despo?

 

That I'm one sexy beast

 

I have a problem with the Darthe train because two of my top scum suspects are on the train.  Also, after multiple re-reads, I still am not completely sure why three of the four are voting him in the first place.  Leelou, on the other hand, i am quite sure this is just a "welp, no one wants to lynch tina so....Darthe." 

 

 

Csarmi seems to be looking for someone to vote onto instead of Darthe.  Csarmi, do you still think Darthe is scum or at least the best lynch choice today?

 

Despo seems to have stopped scumhunting and is too focused on just making sure the Darthe lynch goes through.    Why are you so sure he is scum?  I am fine if it is just your gut, but I'm not getting the same feeling.  I'm gonna need more convincing.

 

Verbal is acting very narrow for any kind of pro-town lean.   Verbal, who are your top 3 scum reads? Verbal, why are you NOT voting Lenlo?  What is your read on Lenlo?

 

#DAT DARTHE DEFENSE

 

 

I dont like Darthe reaction to pressure. His points vs Despo make sense and it looked like a townish post. But I got the impression that he simply added nothing more. He is voting me... But don't seem too convinced.

 

Ninja'd!

 

Here is the thing, I don't think either of you are scum.  I think Despo is looking very bad by being so blindly forced on Darthe.  I would like to know why he is still voting you, but he is the lead lynch, so removing his vote off you would be foolish at this point.

 

 

MOAR OF #DAT DARTHE DEFENSE

 

Or how about a summary?  Like "I think Darthe is scum because he........a) kicked puppies   b) called ME scum and how dare he  c) ate all the cookies   d) is onto me

 

Anything other than "Welp, so much for the tina lynch so......Darthe"

 

#DAT BROKEN RECORD DARTHE DEFENSE

 

I'm around...still prefer the Hallia lynch...could move to Darthe...he's playing a bit more reserved than normal but I have nothing concrete.

 

Could also use a Verbal or Leelou flip just for the intel.

 

I'll be in and out this afternoon but around during the deadline.

 

Bleurgh. Think NotBob can be scum after all. Could have had a crossed read on him from another game mebbe, cause now I remember during my reread him having kind of a scummy vote day 1. That + him fencesitting on Darthe and advocating a Leelou/Verb lynch.... #notgood

 

If you guys don't feel like playing, I can just modkill everyone and call it a game.  Let me know.

 

 

Just re-read the whole thread.  A few people (like Darthe, Mynd, and Tina) have me waffling back and forth based on reading individual posts.  Others (like Dice & Salami) don't have much content for me to read on anything but individual posts [instead of looking as a whole].

 

Krak

Lenlo

Thane

NotBob

Leelou

Tina - flip-flopped a ton on her, but her recent theory involving Mynd and I (and Leelou) actually sounds like the town-Tina I know, even though I think the theory is nuts

Des

Salami

Hallia

Mynd - started off VERY scummy, but has since sounded a bit better

Darthe - the person I've flip-flopped on the most outside of Tina

Dice - the only player who I have zero town points for, and only mafia points

 

Really is staggering to me that you have Len higher up on your town list than me...

 

 

Also meh @ the surefire Dice scum read. Case on others far outweighed the case on Dice imo...

 

Mebbe it's your whole town points system. It might need to be recalibrated, I think you give out town points too easy

 

Frick.  I am town.  I am Moiraine, town Watcher.  Sorry I've been gone so much, I have a summer mini-term one that I was in for the past eight hours.

 

 

I followed Len N1 and he didn't go anywhere.  That should psuedo-confirm him and, if you haven't noticed, I let up my pressure on him a good bit since day started.

 

 

Hrmm.... mebbe Krak has a point.... Darthe committing such an obvious flub and then immediately getting called out by Csarmi COULD have been a gambit to try and "clear" Csarmi.

 

You claimed my character... So I know you're lying. That's why I'm ccing you.

 

I'm doc BTW.

 

I can't think of ANY circumstance in ANY mafia game where uttering the words "I'm doc BTW" is a good idea. Claiming such a role offhand without need is.... bleurgh.

 

Yea I gave this some thoughts. Too low activity. Both by the game and by me tonight.

 

Moiraine is obvious PR unfortunately ...

 

Willing to exchange anyway. May luck out on him being the RB.

 

:hopeful:

 

So why remove all wifom from the scum team? WHY??? They could have mebbe worried that you fake CC'ed or that you weren't the Doc... now you're guaranteed to be dead if you're town. Blech.

 

Well one way or the other, we've caught scum.

 

 

Seriously? As if it was still up in the air at this point? Darthe was so obviously scum there.... wow.

 

[v] Darthe [/v]

 

We shall see who was right

 

Good catch on the follow thingy Csarmi!

 

"We shall see who was right" and "Good catch on the follow thingy Csarmi" aren't even one bit synonomous, considering "we shall see who was right" was in reference to Darthe or Csarmi being scum, which shouldn't have even been in question considering how Csarmi CC'ed. Attempt to distance from teammate has FAILED.

 

@Lee & Verb

 

I'm pretty sure the scum wanted to know who Moiraine was and they'd be treating the cc'er as the doc anyway.

 

Then why give them what they want?

 

Derpy derp?

 

Seems legit. 

 

[unvote]

 

[v] Darthe [/v]

 

Best possible lynch now based on the Moraine cc.

 

 #DAT FAKE VOTE DISTANCE ATTEMPT

 

i just got back from work, read the notifications though. Let's see who was right. Darthe scum, yay. Darthe Town, Csarmi gets it

 

....

 

I'm not being cute when I say this- it literally PAINS me when I see people missing such obvious stuff. Darthe was so clearly scum there... acting like it was still up in the air is just..... WHY ME GOD?????? WHY MUST I SUFFER THESE TYPE OF POSTS??????????

 

Like there could be any doubt. I could list about five obvious reasons just since his claim...

 

But I won't.

 

EXACTLY.

 

 

Pfft. As if you did anything to help.

 

 

...and?

 

I'm looking at everyone.  Leelou looks a bit better by her casual vote of Darthe.  Halia doesn't look all that good now.  You of all people should know that you should be skeptical of a lynch that builds without much to go on. 

 

The counterclaim, on the other hand, was a big game changer. 

 

What are your thoughts on Halia?

 

#DAT... POSSIBLE DISTANCE ATTEMPT?

 

I made her spot bold & caps.  I'm still there, but perhaps drop her a spot or two.  You're still orange as well.  And Dice is still red.  Salami moves up to green.

 

Mynd/Dice/Hallia

 

I'll take any of them tomorrow, but I'd prefer that order.

So I don't move up your fancy list at all, even tho I was pretty much the main pusher of the Darthe lynch?

 

</3.

 

The bromance is over. I'm throwing out the redhead's number.