[Basic] Eye of the World Mafia (Darkfriends win)

[csarmi]

Why?

[Leelou]

Town lean now after his most recent posts. 

[Leelou]

Deadline is in 5.5ish hours. 

[csarmi]

I dont like Darthe reaction to pressure. His points vs Despo make sense and it looked like a townish post. But I got the impression that he simply added nothing more. He is voting me... But don't seem too convinced.

[Myndrunner]

Vote Count

 

 

Csarmi(2): Lenlo, Darthe

Hallia(2): NotBob, Mynd

Darthe(4): Csarmi, Despo, Verbal, Leelou

Mynd(2): Thane, Tina

Dice(1): Krak

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.  Deadline is TODAY at 6 PM EDT (Roughly 9.5 hours from this post).

 

I have a problem with the Darthe train because two of my top scum suspects are on the train.  Also, after multiple re-reads, I still am not completely sure why three of the four are voting him in the first place.  Leelou, on the other hand, i am quite sure this is just a "welp, no one wants to lynch tina so....Darthe." 

 

 

Csarmi seems to be looking for someone to vote onto instead of Darthe.  Csarmi, do you still think Darthe is scum or at least the best lynch choice today?

 

Despo seems to have stopped scumhunting and is too focused on just making sure the Darthe lynch goes through.    Why are you so sure he is scum?  I am fine if it is just your gut, but I'm not getting the same feeling.  I'm gonna need more convincing.

 

Verbal is acting very narrow for any kind of pro-town lean.   Verbal, who are your top 3 scum reads? Verbal, why are you NOT voting Lenlo?  What is your read on Lenlo? 

[Leelou]

I have Darthe as scum from quite a few of his posts. It's already been touched upon in the thread though. If you want, I can point them out after I get back from lunch in a little over an hour. 

[Myndrunner]

I dont like Darthe reaction to pressure. His points vs Despo make sense and it looked like a townish post. But I got the impression that he simply added nothing more. He is voting me... But don't seem too convinced.

 

Ninja'd!

 

Here is the thing, I don't think either of you are scum.  I think Despo is looking very bad by being so blindly forced on Darthe.  I would like to know why he is still voting you, but he is the lead lynch, so removing his vote off you would be foolish at this point. 

[Myndrunner]

I have Darthe as scum from quite a few of his posts. It's already been touched upon in the thread though. If you want, I can point them out after I get back from lunch in a little over an hour. 

 

Or how about a summary?  Like "I think Darthe is scum because he........a) kicked puppies   b) called ME scum and how dare he  c) ate all the cookies   d) is onto me

 

Anything other than "Welp, so much for the tina lynch so......Darthe"

[Krakalakachkn]

What about me?

[Krakalakachkn]

And where the hell is Darthe?

[Krakalakachkn]

Jesus Christ where the hell is anyone?

[Krakalakachkn]

Unofficial vote count

 

Csarmi(2): Lenlo, Darthe

Hallia(2): NotBob, Mynd

Darthe(5): Csarmi, Despo, Verbal, Leelou, Krak

Mynd(2): Thane, Tina

Dice(1): Krak

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Deadline is Friday at 6 PM EDT (Roughly 4 hours from this post).

 

 

 

Edit: strike through the vote I forgot to remove.

[Leelou]

Jesus Christ where the hell is anyone?

 

I went to look for apartments. Pulling Darthe's posts that I find scummy now. 

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

I'm around...still prefer the Hallia lynch...could move to Darthe...he's playing a bit more reserved than normal but I have nothing concrete.

 

Could also use a Verbal or Leelou flip just for the intel.

 

I'll be in and out this afternoon but around during the deadline.

[Krakalakachkn]

Anything good?

[Leelou]

Anything good?

 

Nah, shitty ones this time around. I have time to look for myself, I just want to get a feel for the neighborhoods and what apartments are in the area. My friend I went with is looking to move in 2 months. 

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count

 
Csarmi(2): Lenlo, Darthe
Hallia(2): NotBob, Mynd
Darthe(5): Csarmi, Despo, Verbal, Leelou, Krak
Mynd(2): Thane, Tina
 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.  Deadline is TODAY at 6 PM EDT (Roughly 3.5 hours from this post).

[WWWwombat]

If you guys don't feel like playing, I can just modkill everyone and call it a game.  Let me know.

[csarmi]

Would be faster than spending seven more days without lynch...

[Lenlo]

Alright lets go for it.

 

Unvote Vote: Darthe

[Leelou]

Darthe posts:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let's go. 

 

[v]Len[/v]

Its gonna be like this huh Berry?

 

[v]Darthe[/v]

 

Lets do this.

 

Is that page 1 OMGUS?  I-I don't know how to feel about this.

Odd post for Darthe

 

So here's a funny thing, I see nothing in the past two pages of merit.

 

[v] dawn [/v] 

 

thread had started to pick up by this point.

 

 

Sorry I've been gone all.  I've not been well the past couple of days.

 

I have four main things to say now that I am back.

 

1) Leelou reeks.  She brought up my name a ton and kept trying to bounce scenarios off of it and she is flapping about tying things together as much as possible.  Her play here looks like damage control though I have no idea why she would start that this quickly and I don't know what it's for.

2) Hally's post about Dawn didn't make much sense to me.  It feels weird.

3) I actually agreed with Des...  What is going on here?

4) Mynd, TG and Des look awesomely town.  TG so much that after 212 I was almost embarrassed to post this.  

 

[unvote][v] Leelou [/v]

 

You are hugely misrepping me here. 1 you still haven't answered how I was tying people together and 2 I mentioned you like twice that entire time and had nothing to do with weird theories. It had to do with Dawn's obsession with you that she has shown across a few games. Also, you never specified what you agree with Des on. 

 

 

That's a hard character claim to fight but I don't trust character claims in Womby games and would think less of you all if you did.  TG or Verb, can you show me what is townie about her posts in the last two pages?  The reads list was essentially "Look at all of these other people you could be voting" and she just CFD'd onto Thane for ???.  I don't see the switch and I haven't paid any attention to Thane thus far tbh.  I will note that I think that if Leelou is town Verb is scum for his interactions with her the last two pages.  Those two don't usually have this sort of shifting stance with one another and it's highly relevant to both of their metas.

 

@Mind, STFU Dawny sounds hilarious.  

 

 

 

Terrible is a harsh word but Hally is being polite. Intelligence doesnt ewuate to aptitude and dawn tends to be apathetic which makes her inconsistent and inactive. Do you know how difficult it is to work with a preteen who has no experience and only a cursory understanding of the discussions at hand? Its why I fuss at her. Wasted ability and worse still wasted player slot.

  
I'm 15...that's not a "preteen."

 

My sincerest apologies Slayer of Bananas.  I hope you don't take my consistent ragging as me not liking you btw, I just want so much more from you than you give to these games.  After a few games of it I got tired of being positive in the hopes that you would pick up.

 

The whole part of the character claim doesn't make any sense as looking at it from a townie perspective. 

 

 

I feel pretty oh so pretty

Nothing in this thread has really captivated me so far. I suppose my lackluster reads are better than driving wrong reads down everyones throat but its not as inspiring.

I still think mynd looks good here despite the critiques ive seen of him and I want to know where des is. He is too big a voice to be so quiet, des is the mood of the game throwing you or are you busy or ???

In any case I noticed something that hints (imo) at leelou being scum, maybe with verb. Together they totally stalled out EoD, her with promise of something to be delivered from a tb lynched standpoint and him from using his towncred to hold others back and wait for what she had to say without pushing a different angle adequately. I dont think a no lynch was preferred over lynching someone else but it looks to me like scum didnt have another direction to take the day and so chose to let it flounder.

 

Tying me and Verbal together in a weird way. I touched upon this before, but we weren't the two that stalled EoD. 

 

*pulled out Des's quote as to not go over the quote limit*

 

 

Let's go through these since they are brief (thank you for that btw).  Des, it seems that in the absence of logical ways to progress you've fallen back on your old habit of painting a canvas before you know what the scene looks like.  

 

I've taken the liberty of acknowledging responses to my quotes below here, each numbered correspondingly.  

 

1) I thought it clear enough that that was a joke, to the point that I never even bothered to respond to verb like I would have if it was serious.  It even has text based stuttering in it, how much clearer could one be that my initial statements weren't serious?  Actually... this much.

 

2 and 3) They are right beside one another so it's easy enough to link them.  I didn't see anything serious in an area that I wasn't being serious in and I even go on to say that Len is null for how jokey he is being, thus implying that I understood that his post was a joke and anyone logical could follow that out and easily recognize that I responded in kind.  As I said before, actually you said it too when you said you were going to assume me scum before you began all of this, you're assuming my alignment before reading my posts.  Sadly par for the course of late but it's in the way right now.  

 

4) This fairly seals the deal.  Honestly Des I don't know how you expect to have credibility in games when you think with this level of bias.  You state here that clearly Mynd and I are scum because you aren't and since I am (according to your logic) I must have put a teammate on the list with two townies.  You even linked it to a dead townie to try and show "proof" of your rhetoric.  The problem being, of course, that I am town and that's a legitimate reads list.  However, even to a group that doesn't know my alignment it is clear that you can't "know" it unless you are scum making this whole blathering point a farce and a push on me without reasoning to back it up.

 

5) Every single claim in the game is to be treated as such.  You argue against me cutting corners here by going directly to the strength of the claim when you do the exact same thing below by bringing up that Thanes' reads matching with yours makes him clearly the cop.  Implicit in that is that you didn't trust his claim enough, despite the strength associated with a cop claim or a name claim, to warrant following it solely on its' merit.  Yet you try to use that argument as a point against me?  This is why people should actually read your WoT's instead of the drivel that you spout outside of them.  When you begin to show your thought process it can be quickly seen that you have either entirely flawed logic or have ulterior motives.  Between the last two points Des is now middling for me.

 

6) Here you mention that I have MOAR defense of Mynd and that my pushes on Leelou and Verb are "grasping at straws" without stating ANY reason for saying any of those things.  That's weaker than weak, it's literally just saying something in the hopes that if you are loud enough people will follow you.  You didn't point out any prior defense of mynd or any push on Leelou or Verb, all of which existed in the game, because you didn't want to have to recognize that I have points for each and every single one of those actions.  Since you couldn't argue them you've either ignored them or dropped them in the hopes that I wouldn't argue the points and you could get a cheap lynch.  

 

This seems like you are saying things just to say them. You don't really clarify your positions. Meh. 

 

 

 

[Verbal32]

Vote tags are stupid

 

So is your face.

 

 

 

 

I'd like to hear if anyone has a different take, but I'd be fine with a Leelou lynch today, claim or no claim.  By the very definition of a "fake claim" we can't use her character claim or the VT as a basis for anything.  Some of us are vanilla town but we know that might change as the wheel weaves, so her role claim might not be current.  Either way, we can't use this as a basis for not lynching her.

Noticed this on my re-read.  Wanna explain this one?

 

 

 

I also would like to have known if TG protected someone last night. I have an idea who that person is based on my latest read through. That person also would have made a very likely target for the mafia based on that person's posts. I think the mafia did not expect TG to go down instead.

Can't say for sure, but based on the scene it did not appear that TG was defending the kill - the Fade goes right for Lan and they fight.  Perhaps that was 100% flavor, but there was no indication (to me) that TG absorbed the NK.

[Verbal32]

Just re-read the whole thread.  A few people (like Darthe, Mynd, and Tina) have me waffling back and forth based on reading individual posts.  Others (like Dice & Salami) don't have much content for me to read on anything but individual posts [instead of looking as a whole].

 

Krak

Lenlo

Thane

NotBob

Leelou

Tina - flip-flopped a ton on her, but her recent theory involving Mynd and I (and Leelou) actually sounds like the town-Tina I know, even though I think the theory is nuts

Des

Salami

Hallia

Mynd - started off VERY scummy, but has since sounded a bit better

Darthe - the person I've flip-flopped on the most outside of Tina

Dice - the only player who I have zero town points for, and only mafia points

[Leelou]

I'm going on a field trip soon to the Cookie Monstah truck...yay sugar!!! http://thecookiemonstah.com/

[Darthe]

Frick.  I am town.  I am Moiraine, town Watcher.  Sorry I've been gone so much, I have a summer mini-term one that I was in for the past eight hours.