[Basic] Eye of the World Mafia (Darkfriends win)

[WWWwombat]

I counted Krak's vote because I saw it despite of the lack of color.

[Myndrunner]

Vote Count

 

 

TG(1): NotBob

Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo

Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn

NotBob(1): Tina

Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(1): Mynd

 

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

 

Not that it is ever a stand-alone reason to lynch someone, but the "Third on the Lynch" rule is making some sense right now.

 

Is she seeking an easy D1 lynch or trying to help Lenlo?

[Leelou]

Mynd - I look at all things. Right now, I'm looking at Dawn. She needs to actually play though, which is something she fails to do successfully. Even her response to me has given little to nothing to go on. 

 

Perhaps, you should look at the Twilight game I ran or a couple other games on the main board here she's been in. Since you've been away from DM for some time and all. Ya know, just being helpful. 

 

I have a watchful eye on Tina, she seems a bit off. Not sure if it is because she said she's busy or if she's trying to hide as scum. 

[Lenlo]

Q. How is she helping me by voting Dawn?

[Leelou]

How is Darthe voting twice? 

[Leelou]

 

Vote Count

 

 

TG(1): NotBob

Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo

Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn

NotBob(1): Tina

Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(1): Mynd

 

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

 

Not that it is ever a stand-alone reason to lynch someone, but the "Third on the Lynch" rule is making some sense right now.

 

Is she seeking an easy D1 lynch or trying to help Lenlo?

 

 

Be gone foul beast and shake your snakes elsewhere. 

 

I don't see Lenlo as scummy. I've asked Des to clarify what he sees scummy about Len and he has failed to answer yet. 

[Myndrunner]

 

 

Vote Count

 

 

TG(1): NotBob

Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo

Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn

NotBob(1): Tina

Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(1): Mynd

 

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

 

Not that it is ever a stand-alone reason to lynch someone, but the "Third on the Lynch" rule is making some sense right now.

 

Is she seeking an easy D1 lynch or trying to help Lenlo?

 

 

Be gone foul beast and shake your snakes elsewhere. 

 

I don't see Lenlo as scummy. I've asked Des to clarify what he sees scummy about Len and he has failed to answer yet. 

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

 

TG(1): NotBob

Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo

Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn

NotBob(1): Tina

Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(1): Mynd

 

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

 

Not that it is ever a stand-alone reason to lynch someone, but the "Third on the Lynch" rule is making some sense right now.

 

Is she seeking an easy D1 lynch or trying to help Lenlo?

 

 

Be gone foul beast and shake your snakes elsewhere. 

 

I don't see Lenlo as scummy. I've asked Des to clarify what he sees scummy about Len and he has failed to answer yet. 

 

Yet you so easily slip a vote on Dawn because she is "obsessed" with Darthe?

 

Why don't you see Lenlo as scummy?  Everyone is scum in my book until they give me significant reason to believe otherwise.  The fact that you focused on that part of my interpretation and not the other suggests that maybe I was a lot more right than I thought.

 

Add in your attempt to dismiss my post with your "shake your snakes elsewhere" comment.....I think you have a guilty conscience. 

 

[Leelou]

 

 

No, Mynd. I don't. Me asking for Des to clarify what he sees as scummy is me doing just that. I see Len as his usual self. Nothing has jumped out as scum or town. He's NULL in my book for right now. 

 

Have you looked up Dawn's previous games yet? 

[Myndrunner]

 

No, Mynd. I don't. Me asking for Des to clarify what he sees as scummy is me doing just that. I see Len as his usual self. Nothing has jumped out as scum or town. He's NULL in my book for right now. 

 

Have you looked up Dawn's previous games yet? 

 

Been in them. 

 

Still not a reason to vote someone.  Vote them because they are scum.  Someone obsessed with one player (even though I hardly feel this qualifies) is no reason to lynch someone.   Seems to me that you are more focused on finding the easy D1 lynch rather than finding scum.

[Leelou]

Defense of Dawn noted. 

[Myndrunner]

Defense of Dawn noted. 

 

Nice try, Lao Che, but I am not defending Dawn, I am calling bullshanks on your weak reason for voting her.   You are looking for an easy lynch rather than scumhunting.

[Thane Vakarian]

dawn is always hard to read, which makes her an interesting player... lot of fuss around her and Darthe, don't think it's anything more than jokevoting from both though

[hazelkrs1]

 

 

lol Mynd's going to have an apoplexy.

 

Wait.....is that not your goal as well?

 

 

I kinda like Mynd,Krak though....we'd make a great HYDRA!! MYNDCRACK!

 

Yeah...

 

I still thing Verbal is pretty aloof yet active right now.  When he scumhunts, he hides during D1 and watches.  He's out here smokin and jokin with the rest of us.

 

That bothers me.  Plus, I don't like how he slipped his vote on Lenlo when there was already a vote on him. 

 

On a separate note, TG's draw of votes for his downsideup text smells of scum slipping easy votes his way. 

 

 

This is pretty bad reasoning for suspecting Verbal imo Mynd. So meta, that is somewhat outdated (and has already been addressed by at least one person), and the fact that he voted someone that someone else already voted??? That is just extremely weak reasoning there buddy.

 

Why are there not 10 new pages of posts?

 

I thought the same. Pace has picked up a bit now at least.

 

He's overdoing it, though.

 

My sentiments exactly. Len's silliness looks forced so far to me.

 

unvote

Vote Tina

 

 

 

I didn't like her post at all. Too many soft questions.

 

I also agreed with this post big time

 

[v]Leelou[/v]

 

 

Actually, [unvote]Leelou[/unvote]

[v]Dawn[/v]

 

 

 

 

What is a soft question? And why is it bad?

I mean a question whose answer serves to provide little in the way of information but gives the asker the illusion of being in the thick of it.

 

 

Basically you asked a series of questions that won't really provide much info or can easily be ignored with no consequence.

 

 

Krak is my strongest town read so far

 

 

What was your reason for voting Leelou?

 

For her early defense of Verb about him being active on D1.  Stuck out to me.

 

 

If that's the case why did you so quickly unvote her and vote Dawn then?

 

 

 

 

What is a soft question? And why is it bad?

I mean a question whose answer serves to provide little in the way of information but gives the asker the illusion of being in the thick of it.

 

 

Basically you asked a series of questions that won't really provide much info or can easily be ignored with no consequence.

 

 

That's silly, especially for D1.  Any questions are good questions I think

 

 

Hallia's defense of Tina here makes me feel sketchy about her regardless of Tina's alignment. What she's saying is patently false, at least from a town perspective. Questions which make it look like you're scumhunting when you're not aren't that great, and questions in the manner of rolefishing or something are even worse.

 

I think Krak's point about Tina was fairly obvious, that she seemed to be fake scumhunting to him, so Hallia's over-simplistic defense here could either be a scummer vouching for a teammate or scum!Hallia white knighting Tina.

 

 

Is your name actually Bob?  Curious.

 

Yes but I spell it with two os.

 

 

Sometimes the simplest jokes make me laugh the hardest. This was one of those

 

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Dawn[/v]

 

The obsession with Darthe is unhealthy. Also, gives you an easy meta to hide behind. 

 

 

Scummy opportunistic vote alert.

 

Sin 1: Bandwagons onto Dawn for really lame duck reasoning

 

Sin 2: Covered by Mynd already, but yeah calling two posts about a player an "obsession" is just extremely disingenuous, looks designed to make Dawn look worse

 

Sin 3: Here Leelou makes it seem like Dawn is scummy and deserving of a vote, however when Mynd challenges her on this she characterizes her vote as more exploratory (that she was trying to discern Dawn's alignment.

 

 

I'm sorry Mynd, but what? Dawn has this horrible habit of not doing much but being obsessed with a couple players in a game and giving little to no reasons for voting them. She also doesn't listen much to reason. Makes it awfully hard to tell if she is town or scum. I'd rather try to get some sort of feel on her early. Your round about weird defense of Dawn is noted. 

 

Dawn simply voted Darthe as an OMGUS.  To say that's an obsession is quite a stretch.

 

 

 

(was originally looking for a less creepy nodding gif, but passing up the chance to use Nicholson here seemed like a travesty I could not commit)

 

Mynd - I look at all things. Right now, I'm looking at Dawn. She needs to actually play though, which is something she fails to do successfully. Even her response to me has given little to nothing to go on. 

 

Perhaps, you should look at the Twilight game I ran or a couple other games on the main board here she's been in. Since you've been away from DM for some time and all. Ya know, just being helpful. 

 

I have a watchful eye on Tina, she seems a bit off. Not sure if it is because she said she's busy or if she's trying to hide as scum. 

 

This is the second time you've made reference to Dawn's slightly less than exemplary track record in mafia, which to me looks designed to reinforce the concept in everyone's head that she's lynchbait anyways, so might as well cull the wheat from the chaff so to speak.

 

 

Be gone foul beast and shake your snakes elsewhere. 

 

I don't see Lenlo as scummy. I've asked Des to clarify what he sees scummy about Len and he has failed to answer yet. 

 

 

I don't see why you felt the need to ask me when I had already indicated what about Lenlo makes me think he looks scummy. Methinks that you mentioning waiting on my answer is you trying to look busy.

 

Defense of Dawn noted. 

 

Your responses to Mynd's pressure have been terrible so far. Looks like you're trying to brush him off to me.

[hazelkrs1]

Krak is easily my strongest town read so far. Loving his start to this game as well. Declared his stance immediately, followed up on it, and didn't quibble or back down when challenged. He is townie as a mofo.

 

Mynd's suspicions on Verbal looked odd, but his recent pressuring of Leelou looks pretty townie to me.

 

Speaking of Verbal, it might just be my new bromance with him making me want to townread him every game, but once again he looks fairly townie to me. Could be his agreeing about Lenlo however. Town but not AS town as in other recent games, not yet.

 

Hmmmm who else..... thinking NotBob is town. His bandwagon vote on TG looked kinda too open to have come from scum.

 

I'll also give Thane a slight town nod for his last post, he kinda went against the grain and said neither Dawn or Darthe seemed that unusual atm. Obv if one of those two is scum we'd have to revisit Thane pretty quickly however.

 

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As for scum reads, still don't like Lenlo this game. Call it a tone read, but his silliness looked forced to me, and the way he both distanced from a TG train while subtly setting it up at the same time was one of the scummiest things to happen ITT so far.

 

Tina looks suspect for the reasons Krak already pointed out, her wot was filled with softball questions. Looks like she's fake scumhunting so far.

 

Leelou looks suspect for a number of reasons. Defending people somewhat inexplicably, had a scummy looking vote on Dawn which seemed like an attempt to go for an easy lynch like Mynd mentioned, and her response to Mynd's pressure doesn't look good so far. Inb4 Leelou tries to characterize my scumread on her as having to do with something outside this game.

 

Hallia stands out for her over-simplistic defense of Tina, not sure yet if it was her coming to the defense of a teammate or trying to white knight Tina.

 

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And those everyone, are my general impressions of everyone thus far. If your name wasn't mentioned, it's cause I either have a null on you or am slyly playing a read close to the chest. Scummers beware.

[Leelou]

I'm in meetings all day today - on my way to my first one, so I won't be around until late tonight/tomorrow.

[hazelkrs1]

Someone get a damn fine negotiator, Leelou is holding us all hostage.

 

Leelou, what are your demands? Do you intend to let any civilians go as a sign of good faith? Will you order pizza for us all at least?

[Leelou]

I have like one vote on me, and sorry work is far more important. I don't have time today and put it in the sign ups I'm busy. I'll respond when I have time late, so don't worry your pretty little head. And you can have the strawberry from my fruit cup.

[hazelkrs1]

Can I have a peach as well?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MZhaX8P3W8

 

[Lenlo]

 

 

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As for scum reads, still don't like Lenlo this game. Call it a tone read, but his silliness looked forced to me, and the way he both distanced from a TG train while subtly setting it up at the same time was one of the scummiest things to happen ITT so far.

 

For this are you talking about when I said I refuse to vote TG for the upside down thing because I wanted to see how that went? Cause right now im disappointed, TG stopped doing it and he hadnt even cased anyone like that yet.

[WWWwombat]

Vote Count

 

 

TG(1): NotBob

Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo

Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn

NotBob(1): Tina

Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(1): Mynd

 

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

[Verbal32]

 

[unvote]

 

[v]Dawn[/v]

 

The obsession with Darthe is unhealthy. Also, gives you an easy meta to hide behind.

I'm pretty sure just voting someone is NOT an obsession. I've done very little that would make you think I'm obsessed with Warty, which I'm not.

 

 

Warty?  I know you mean Darthe, but that is the first I've heard Warty.

 

 

 

 

 

Vote Count

 

 

TG(1): NotBob

Lenlo(2): Darthe, Despo

Darthe(2): Lenlo, Dawn

NotBob(1): Tina

Dawn(3): Darthe, TG, Leelou

Tina(1): Krak

Leelou(1): Mynd

 

 

8 to lynch.  Deadline Saturday at 10 AM EDT.

 

Not that it is ever a stand-alone reason to lynch someone, but the "Third on the Lynch" rule is making some sense right now.

 

Is she seeking an easy D1 lynch or trying to help Lenlo?

 

 

Why Lenlo and not Darthe?  They both have 2 votes as of your quoted post, so explain why you chose to say Lenlo.

 

 

 

 

Krak is easily my strongest town read so far. Loving his start to this game as well. Declared his stance immediately, followed up on it, and didn't quibble or back down when challenged. He is townie as a mofo.

 

Mynd's suspicions on Verbal looked odd, but his recent pressuring of Leelou looks pretty townie to me.

 

Speaking of Verbal, it might just be my new bromance with him making me want to townread him every game, but once again he looks fairly townie to me. Could be his agreeing about Lenlo however. Town but not AS town as in other recent games, not yet.

 

Hmmmm who else..... thinking NotBob is town. His bandwagon vote on TG looked kinda too open to have come from scum.

 

I'll also give Thane a slight town nod for his last post, he kinda went against the grain and said neither Dawn or Darthe seemed that unusual atm. Obv if one of those two is scum we'd have to revisit Thane pretty quickly however.

 

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As for scum reads, still don't like Lenlo this game. Call it a tone read, but his silliness looked forced to me, and the way he both distanced from a TG train while subtly setting it up at the same time was one of the scummiest things to happen ITT so far.

 

Tina looks suspect for the reasons Krak already pointed out, her wot was filled with softball questions. Looks like she's fake scumhunting so far.

 

Leelou looks suspect for a number of reasons. Defending people somewhat inexplicably, had a scummy looking vote on Dawn which seemed like an attempt to go for an easy lynch like Mynd mentioned, and her response to Mynd's pressure doesn't look good so far. Inb4 Leelou tries to characterize my scumread on her as having to do with something outside this game.

 

Hallia stands out for her over-simplistic defense of Tina, not sure yet if it was her coming to the defense of a teammate or trying to white knight Tina.

 

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And those everyone, are my general impressions of everyone thus far. If your name wasn't mentioned, it's cause I either have a null on you or am slyly playing a read close to the chest. Scummers beware.

 

Good post.  I'll show you my townside eventually - bear with me.

 

 

 

 

I have like one vote on me, and sorry work is far more important. I don't have time today and put it in the sign ups I'm busy. I'll respond when I have time late, so don't worry your pretty little head. And you can have the strawberry from my fruit cup.

 

Did.....did you just call Des pretty?

 

 

 

 

Can I have a peach as well?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MZhaX8P3W8

 

I love that movie, and I quote that movie often.

 

"I hate to see you go, but I love to watch you leave."

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Was going to use the 8-ball but...

 

What's wrong with a healthy obsession with Darthe?

 

Solid pro-town move...Vote Leelou

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Looks like I forgot something...Unvote, Vote Leelou

[dawnflower8]

[unvote]

[v]Leelou[/v]

 

I agree, your vote on me seems really bad. Voting me because I am "obsessed with Darthe"?

How is being obsessed with someone scummy? Are you just looking for an easy lynch? Sure seems that way.

[Hallia]

[v] dawn [/v]

 

 

Have you all never played with Dawn? The whole her and Darthe thing has been going on forever. I think Leelou is right that it's becoming a meta to hide behind. The sudden train on Leelou reeks