[Advanced] X-Men: Rise of Apocalypse - GAME OVER

[csarmi]

 

I got no dogma. I always consider the actual position.

If that were true you'd have no problem with lynching Verbal.

Instead you're joining Lenlo in defending him.

We KNOW he cannot be Town. That should be good enough for a lynch on Day 1.

 

Me what?!

 

I'm not defending anyone. Certainly not Verbal. I was talking about survivors and whether they should be lynched on sight.

[WWWwombat]

We also know Verbal is WIFOMing about the utility of his lynch. Personally, I think it would help the mafia. Apocalypse is a tough mofo, Verb seems to be goading us into lynching him in his rules, and I doubt he would have made his bastard setup easily breakable by a D1 modlynch.

[WWWwombat]

 

 

I got no dogma. I always consider the actual position.

If that were true you'd have no problem with lynching Verbal.

Instead you're joining Lenlo in defending him.

We KNOW he cannot be Town. That should be good enough for a lynch on Day 1.

Me what?!

 

I'm not defending anyone. Certainly not Verbal. I was talking about survivors and whether they should be lynched on sight.

Rofl you're terrible at playing obtuse.

[csarmi]

Not even see your point, Wombat.

I saw Nolder's post about how self-aligned people should be lynched on sight and reacted on it. I haven't even read Lenlo's points until now. He's not making much sense by the way.

[WWWwombat]

So your excuse for derailing the game is that you're skimming?

[csarmi]

So your excuse for derailing the game is that you're skimming?

I've been skimming alright while at work. But you must be kidding about derailing.

[WWWwombat]

 

So your excuse for derailing the game is that you're skimming?

I've been skimming alright while at work. But you must be kidding about derailing.

You steered this game onto a largely irrelevant conversation on the utility of lynching 3rd party roles. That is derailing.

[Nolder]

We also know Verbal is WIFOMing about the utility of his lynch. Personally, I think it would help the mafia. Apocalypse is a tough mofo, Verb seems to be goading us into lynching him in his rules, and I doubt he would have made his bastard setup easily breakable by a D1 modlynch.

I'm not expecting to break the game. I think it will have no effect besides maybe -1 mafia.

Or if it does it'll be an effect which puts the game more into balance not less.

[LilyElizabeth]

 

 

So your excuse for derailing the game is that you're skimming?

I've been skimming alright while at work. But you must be kidding about derailing.

You steered this game onto a largely irrelevant conversation on the utility of lynching 3rd party roles. That is derailing.

 

I agree with this.

[Lenlo]

We also know Verbal is WIFOMing about the utility of his lynch. Personally, I think it would help the mafia. Apocalypse is a tough mofo, Verb seems to be goading us into lynching him in his rules, and I doubt he would have made his bastard setup easily breakable by a D1 modlynch.

You said it in a much shorter and better way than me.

 

 

We also know Verbal is WIFOMing about the utility of his lynch. Personally, I think it would help the mafia. Apocalypse is a tough mofo, Verb seems to be goading us into lynching him in his rules, and I doubt he would have made his bastard setup easily breakable by a D1 modlynch.

I'm not expecting to break the game. I think it will have no effect besides maybe -1 mafia.

Or if it does it'll be an effect which puts the game more into balance not less.

 

Then you are senile or naive. 

 

Think about it. If a player is doing everything they can, goading you and poking at you and generally being scummy on purpose do you lynch them or do you go against what they want and not lynch them? What would you automatically think if a player did that? Jester? Its probably not a good idea to give Verbal what he wants this early in the game.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Verbal (3) - Salami, Nolder, Dap

Lenlo (3) - RTE, Ishy, Krak

Salami (2) - Wombat, Nyn

RTE (1) - Des

Darthe (1) - Lily

Lily (1) - Tina

Nolder (1) - Darthe

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

[Pralaya]

 

We also know Verbal is WIFOMing about the utility of his lynch. Personally, I think it would help the mafia. Apocalypse is a tough mofo, Verb seems to be goading us into lynching him in his rules, and I doubt he would have made his bastard setup easily breakable by a D1 modlynch.

I'm not expecting to break the game. I think it will have no effect besides maybe -1 mafia.

Or if it does it'll be an effect which puts the game more into balance not less.

 

 

I agree with this.

 

I think we would have to lynch Verbal sometime or the other to win the game. I am not sure what will happen if we want to lynch him day 5 or something. According to me, we should find out the pattern at the early stages of the game. 

[Pralaya]

vote verbal

[Darthe]

I think he was honest about needing to be the last mafia lynched and I think mafia know this. It seems natural that they would push to have him killed but again, this is all pointless conjecture until we kill enough of them to substantiate or invalidate my hypothesis.

 

Btw, my guess is that (because it fits the theme) his death will either increase thw mafia abilities or will add some mechanic like famine/recruiting to the game. This has no bearing on the game, I just want to be able and brag later if accurate.

[WWWwombat]

The odds of Apocalypse being a regular old voteless mafia are almost zero.

 

Unless you think Verbal is Mr. Sinister (my money's on Leelou for that), I don't think we should lynch him.

[Darthe]

 

 

 

 

We also know Verbal is WIFOMing about the utility of his lynch. Personally, I think it would help the mafia. Apocalypse is a tough mofo, Verb seems to be goading us into lynching him in his rules, and I doubt he would have made his bastard setup easily breakable by a D1 modlynch.

I'm not expecting to break the game. I think it will have no effect besides maybe -1 mafia.

Or if it does it'll be an effect which puts the game more into balance not less.

I agree with this.

 

I think we would have to lynch Verbal sometime or the other to win the game. I am not sure what will happen if we want to lynch him day 5 or something. According to me, we should find out the pattern at the early stages of the game.

2 quick things..

 

1) according to you?

 

2) bringing a game more into balance only helps if town are the underdogs. Did you ever consider that mafia might be underpowered? Betcha Nol did but he decided not to mention it.

 

unvote vote nol

[Pralaya]

@Darthe Yes,it was an opinion

[Krakalakachkn]

Can we lynch Leelou?

[Darthe]

Btdubz verb already said we habe to lynch him. You look really bad right now.

[Pralaya]

That was not the opinion. The opinion was that we have to find the pattern early.

[csarmi]

@Wombat: I agree that this game should be put on rail, let's get more focused.

 

Reading up. Not much content I can salvage from what's been going on (all confusing), but Nolder looks bad so far. I don't much care for some ideas he's advocating (the RTE vote in #63, wanting to get someone else check if Verb can be voted, gold sounds like a trap, not interested in puzzles).

 

Halfway through.

[csarmi]

Interesting - I might be wrong here about Verbal and the role PM's but:

 

First he states in blue that "I may or may not be lying in PM responses or game posts. However, your role PMs contain valid information and are not lies.".

Then Lily says that if she understands correctly, that may or may not be true.

Then our dear Mod quotes the whole post and says "it is true" in golden. Note that it is unclear if it's Lily's statement that's true (that Verb's statement might or might not be true) or Verb's statement itself. When he gets called out on it, he makes sure to claim in blue (not gold) that he has to be telling the truth sometime.

 

(read the exchange around #129 if you want)

 

So in the end, we got nothing there right? Am I being paranoid?

[Krakalakachkn]

Btdubz verb already said we habe to lynch him. You look really bad right now.

 

You talkin' to me?

[Darthe]

Rory, not you man.

 

Salami I think anything in the initial role PMs is ok but past that.. *shrug*

 

I'm interested in seeing what you pull up on Nol and habe a couple things of my own ti add later.

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Verbal (4) - Salami, Nolder, Dap, Pral

Lenlo (3) - RTE, Ishy, Krak

Salami (2) - Wombat, Nyn

RTE (1) - Des

Darthe (1) - Lily

Lily (1) - Tina

Nolder (1) - Darthe

 

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.