[Advanced] X-Men: Rise of Apocalypse - GAME OVER

[csarmi]

*gulps it down*

[John E. Kelley]

*admires how handsome the guy in my mirror is*

[csarmi]

*steals Ishy's chocolate *

[LilyElizabeth]

*laughs because Ishy doesn't like sweets anyway*

[csarmi]

*enchants Ishy's mirror *

[Lenlo]

*Moves out from infront the mirror*

[Verbal32]

Scene incoming.

[Verbal32]

Well, this turned out to be an interesting night.  I enjoy carnage - please, keep this up.  Suffice to say I am amused.

 

Dap, Red Queen, has been killed.

Pralaya, White Queen, is dead.

 

Ishy, Beast, has been killed.

 

 

It is now Day.  The deadline for today is Tuesday at 10pm EST.

 

 

 

Oh, and you all notice that Nyn appears to have expended some sort of energy.  The merest touch will kill Nyn today.

 

 

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[John E. Kelley]

Knew it. Have fun.

[dapianoplay3r]

well F*** me

good luck everyone

[LilyElizabeth]

Vote Salami

 

for reasons already stated. I hate it when someone tries to make something out of nothing. 

[Leelou]

Vote Count

 

Salami (1) - Lily

 

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

[Darthe]

Lily

 

for aforementioned reasons.

[Nynaeve]

 

Oh, and you all notice that Nyn appears to have expended some sort of energy.

 

 

Dirty!

 

 

On a serious note, I'm starting my LAST emergency shift in an hour so me and my thoughts will be back in 12 hours or so. Wish me luck!!

 

 

Nyn

[WWWwombat]

Bonne chance. Did you shoot someone?

[WWWwombat]

@Mods: Any particular reason that the phrasing of Pralaya's death says "is dead" while the others say "has been killed?"

[Pralaya]

Bah!

 

Good luck

[hazelkrs1]

Very interesting night apparently. Okay so speculation here, but my take on the flavor side of the NK's:

 

There have been multiple incarnations of the White Queen and Red Queen in the Marvel world. Emma Frost was first known as the White Queen, and represents her most often, but has also been the Red Queen briefly. This is only a guess, but I'm thinking Verbal took the incarnations that came from the Days of Future Past series, since thats the name of the upcoming x-men movie as well. In this series, Emma Frost is once again the White Queen, but is good, and Psylocke, who is normally good, is evil in this alternate reality and is the Red Queen of the Hellfire club. So from the flavor side my guess would be that Dap was anti-town, and Pral was town (his last post somewhat supports this, but meh). They seem to be Lovers, considering the differentiation between the verbiage ("has been killed" vs. "is dead").

 

And with that, I might as well completely reveal what I was talking about with the choice I have, because I'm guessing this could be one explanation for the third death, Ishy. When Mish is NK'ed or Lynched, I have the choice between Sacrifice, or Vengeance. Not exactly sure what Sacrifice means, but I figured Vengeance would likely give me a Vig kill to use. I figure Pral may have had the same choice and used it, or perhaps Ishy was the mafia NK and Dap was a Vig kill from somewhere else. And for what it's worth, I didn't have much of a read on Ishy, but Beast is pretty solidly good in the comics, never really goes rogue.

 

Now, most of this is speculation, and wouldn't seem directly helpful towards the scumhunt (except for personal feelings on player alignments, which can give us info since there are no coroner reports), but I do think it's applicable because of this: I'm thinking the best option for today is to lynch Mish, giving me a Vig kill since I'd choose Vengeance, which I can then use on someone else before I die.

 

Obviously the naysayers out there will say this is risky, that Mish might be town and that I might misshoot or something. I will say that I won't blind shoot, in other words my shot will be well informed and not wild in the dark. As for Mish, well we just can't deal with the wifom. She apparently can't be vetted by a cop, and I don't really think it would be worth it anyways, or worth outing any other investigative role.

 

She essentially claimed Miller, and well there's really only one course of action for us at this point. Voting Mish is the way to go yall.

 

Vote Mish.

[hazelkrs1]

As for who I might shoot, I don't have any qualms about telegraphing it right now since the action will likely take place during twilight and the mafia team won't be able to do anything about it.

 

CSarmi and Krak are easily my top two options. Have others, but I wanna reread to solidify my opinions on those. CS and Krak, townie thing to do would be to get your reads out on everyone, and probably start thinking about revealing.

 

Also will prob do a case on Mish to help seal the deal today, but again, I don't think it's really necessary, since she claimed she will "appear as" mafia. Only one smart way to deal with that wifom.

 

KILL HER WITH KINDNESS FIRE.

 

[csarmi]

So let me get this straight, Despo. As I believe both of you and Mish to be town, this is what you're trying to do here.

 

You want to lynch a town player (Mish) so that another town player (you) die as well. You believe that would give you a Vig shot to use (speculation says you might get one) to shoot either Krak or me.

Now I don't know about Krak, but given how bad your judgment is, I have no illusions about you getting a Vig shot right. If you wanna shoot him, he might just be even worse target than me. Don't even think aboutshooting me.

 

Yea, the way I see it, at best, your idea will cost three townies during a day. What about not.

[Niniel]

I´m about to go to work but let´s list what we know. 

 

* From the op: we need to lynch Verbal sooner or later but not until mafia is gone. 

* We don´t get to know peoples alignment when they die. 

*That means that it will be hard to know when mafia acually is dead. 

* Four people are dead so far - Ishy is coloured gold. Gold stands for truth but I don´t know what it means. Maybe cop has viewed Ishy and gotten the right alignment? 

 

* Many of us (I guess everyone) has alignment/appear as in our role PMs. That makes me believe that there are mafia that appear as mafia or town and there are town that appears as town or mafia. It will be hard for the cop to trust their viewings. Maybe the gold text can help? (That is if we have a cop, you never know.)

 

* Des and Mish are lovers. Mish says that she will appear as mafia although she is town. I think that it´s a possibility that she is telling the truth but how can we find out? If we have mafia that appear as mafia they will of course say that they are town that appear as town. 

 

* Des says that he is vengeful and will get a kill if he dies.

 

* Des believes that Pralaya and Dap could have been lovers as well. I haven´t checked the wiki about that yet. 

 

* Pralaya wanted to lynch Verbal, just as Nolder. What did Ishy and Dap say about that? I must go back and see later. 

 

What have I missed? 

[csarmi]

Sounds like a good recap.

 

I can add two things.

 

1) Verbal tells me that no knowledge of the theme is needed. I don't believe he's lying to me about that.

 

2) From what I've seen in the game and read on wiki, it seems to me that.he's making a point of giving us characters and roles with controversy.

Making it close to impossible to infer alignment from claims and flips.

[dicetosser1]

I believe Mish.

 

I dont trust Des. and he seems to be jumping to conclusions.  why the hell would red and white queens be lovers?  they compete against each other. red queen and black king makes sense but not the two queens.  And who says they were lovers anyway?  any of them could have been anything cause we got no info

 

i say we vote Des not mish. He bought out the lover and mish mafia claim knowing full well that if one dies so does the other. So i say test it on him.

 

Vote Des

[hazelkrs1]

So let me get this straight, Despo. As I believe both of you and Mish to be town, this is what you're trying to do here.

 

You want to lynch a town player (Mish) so that another town player (you) die as well. You believe that would give you a Vig shot to use (speculation says you might get one) to shoot either Krak or me.

Now I don't know about Krak, but given how bad your judgment is, I have no illusions about you getting a Vig shot right. If you wanna shoot him, he might just be even worse target than me. Don't even think aboutshooting me.

 

Yea, the way I see it, at best, your idea will cost three townies during a day. What about not.

 

Hilarious cause you were trying to breadcrumb a case about me being mafia before, now you're trying to act like you had me pegged as town the whole time. LAWLZ.

 

Also don't think that Mish has done NEAR enough for you to have a town read on her. She's pretty much lurked, nudged two separate trains near deadline yesterday, and then essentially claims miller after I out her. You REALLY think that's townie type behavior? Nope. You don't. You're her teammate trying to crisis-manage.

 

I want to lynch someone I think is scum, so that I can then have a shot to potentially take out more scum. Without coroner reports, you can't be dainty here. Only way to see if town wins is to make a few bodies until Verbal decides to give us more info, or tells us we win.

 

You on the other hand, are trying to fearmonger about 3 townies possibly going down. Classic scum strategy.

[hazelkrs1]

I believe Mish.

 

I dont trust Des. and he seems to be jumping to conclusions.  why the hell would red and white queens be lovers?  they compete against each other. red queen and black king makes sense but not the two queens.  And who says they were lovers anyway?  any of them could have been anything cause we got no info

 

i say we vote Des not mish. He bought out the lover and mish mafia claim knowing full well that if one dies so does the other. So i say test it on him.

 

Vote Des

 

Dice, you're either scum, or are REALLY having some difficulty seeing this clearly. Explain why killing me to test my claim would work better than killing Mish. There is no rational explanation dude.

 

You just wanna kill me first so Mish can get a Vengeful kill instead. Good job showing your colors tho.