Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[WolfbrotherKronos]

Me voting for you wouldn't make any sense. The recent read I have on you is based on RTE possibly flipping mafia and your interaction with Hallia which is more of a gut feeling. I'm still sticking with my vote on RTE, but I do find your reaction interesting.

So if RTE flips mafia am I next on the chopping block?

[_CLOUD]

You shouldn't use the newbie card at all.

 

And my point wasn't that this game isn't confusing (I think everyone finds in confusing or at least difficult to play), but I do find you using it as an excuse to not vote for someone or comment on the recent happenings, and then quickly voting for Hallia over something I didn't think was scummy, pinging.

[_CLOUD]

 

Me voting for you wouldn't make any sense. The recent read I have on you is based on RTE possibly flipping mafia and your interaction with Hallia which is more of a gut feeling. I'm still sticking with my vote on RTE, but I do find your reaction interesting.

So if RTE flips mafia am I next on the chopping block?

 

 

You seem to be getting awfully defensive over something that I only mentioned was pinging.

[WolfbrotherKronos]

You shouldn't use the newbie card at all.

 

And my point wasn't that this game isn't confusing (I think everyone finds in confusing or at least difficult to play), but I do find you using it as an excuse to not vote for someone or comment on the recent happenings, and then quickly voting for Hallia over something I didn't think was scummy, pinging.

Fair enough.

[Nolder]

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yeah, so the opportunity to observe teh Tress train has come and gone... my take-away? 

 

It's time to Unvote, Vote Crusher

 

I played this game for him. He's barely commenting on the game, barely participating, and doing everything he can to stay under-the-radar. I questioned him once and he popped up from nowhere with a defense. When he's town, he's usually got some bravado to him... he's playing coy, almost scared. IMO

Interesting. I almost said the same thing about him in Lily's game on JN.

Vote Crusher

 

 

Whu?

 

What does the JN game have to do with anything? 

 

Same meta argument.

I'm basically saying I had the same thought in another game about the same behavior and agree.

 

 

Yeah, but it's how he reacts to pressure that is telling. Was he scum in that game? I thought maybe he was scum and you were using that to push.

 

That hasn't been revealed yet. He might be scum but I don't know.

And maybe his reaction was telling to you but not for me.

I don't think I know Crusher well enough yet to make that kind of call.

 

I agree with what you said about treating this like day 1 but I think beating the grass is only going to get you a tired arm.

I think most of the people who were actually putting any effort into the game have been killed off. Kind of surprised you're still alive to be honest.

If you're not dead soon I think you're probably the best candidate for lynching tbh just because scum wouldn't leave you alive to motivate a braindead town if you weren't possessed.

 

 

I don't like what you are setting up here. If you are scum this will be the best you've done fencing with me, then setting me up, possibly ever. 

 

You can't tell me you didn't see this coming regardless of anyone's alignment.

You're the only one putting in any real effort into the game.

You can't be this active in a game full of lurkers when mafia has a conversion power and not expect to be called out as a target.

[Nolder]

For the record Ape. It has absolutely nothing to do with your play. Zero.

I don't want to lynch you.

 

I don't think there's going to be any choice though.

If you're running around beating the grass and town is just sitting back why would the mafia leave you alive?

I'm not suggesting we lynch you right now but maybe next hour or the hour after that. Yes. How can we not?

[John McClane]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yeah, so the opportunity to observe teh Tress train has come and gone... my take-away? 

 

It's time to Unvote, Vote Crusher

 

I played this game for him. He's barely commenting on the game, barely participating, and doing everything he can to stay under-the-radar. I questioned him once and he popped up from nowhere with a defense. When he's town, he's usually got some bravado to him... he's playing coy, almost scared. IMO

Interesting. I almost said the same thing about him in Lily's game on JN.

Vote Crusher

 

 

Whu?

 

What does the JN game have to do with anything? 

 

Same meta argument.

I'm basically saying I had the same thought in another game about the same behavior and agree.

 

 

Yeah, but it's how he reacts to pressure that is telling. Was he scum in that game? I thought maybe he was scum and you were using that to push.

 

That hasn't been revealed yet. He might be scum but I don't know.

And maybe his reaction was telling to you but not for me.

I don't think I know Crusher well enough yet to make that kind of call.

 

I agree with what you said about treating this like day 1 but I think beating the grass is only going to get you a tired arm.

I think most of the people who were actually putting any effort into the game have been killed off. Kind of surprised you're still alive to be honest.

If you're not dead soon I think you're probably the best candidate for lynching tbh just because scum wouldn't leave you alive to motivate a braindead town if you weren't possessed.

 

 

I don't like what you are setting up here. If you are scum this will be the best you've done fencing with me, then setting me up, possibly ever. 

 

You can't tell me you didn't see this coming regardless of anyone's alignment.

You're the only one putting in any real effort into the game.

You can't be this active in a game full of lurkers when mafia has a conversion power and not expect to be called out as a target.

 

 

Yeah, fair enough. 

[John McClane]

For the record Ape. It has absolutely nothing to do with your play. Zero.

I don't want to lynch you.

 

I don't think there's going to be any choice though.

If you're running around beating the grass and town is just sitting back why would the mafia leave you alive?

I'm not suggesting we lynch you right now but maybe next hour or the hour after that. Yes. How can we not?

 

Well, I'm not possessed... and now, with the situation being what it is, I don't make a good conversion candidate. Since, as you say, my lynch is inevitable. I'm assuming I wasn't converted early because the thinking was I'd be one of the first to be viewed by the FLIR, which is probably why guys like Verbal and Wombat were killed versus converted. 

[The Crusher]

Unvote

 

 

unvote

 

vote Hallia

[The Crusher]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And yeah, so the opportunity to observe teh Tress train has come and gone... my take-away? 

 

It's time to Unvote, Vote Crusher

 

I played this game for him. He's barely commenting on the game, barely participating, and doing everything he can to stay under-the-radar. I questioned him once and he popped up from nowhere with a defense. When he's town, he's usually got some bravado to him... he's playing coy, almost scared. IMO

Interesting. I almost said the same thing about him in Lily's game on JN.

Vote Crusher

 

 

Whu?

 

What does the JN game have to do with anything? 

 

Same meta argument.

I'm basically saying I had the same thought in another game about the same behavior and agree.

 

 

Yeah, but it's how he reacts to pressure that is telling. Was he scum in that game? I thought maybe he was scum and you were using that to push.

 

That hasn't been revealed yet. He might be scum but I don't know.

And maybe his reaction was telling to you but not for me.

I don't think I know Crusher well enough yet to make that kind of call.

 

I agree with what you said about treating this like day 1 but I think beating the grass is only going to get you a tired arm.

I think most of the people who were actually putting any effort into the game have been killed off. Kind of surprised you're still alive to be honest.

If you're not dead soon I think you're probably the best candidate for lynching tbh just because scum wouldn't leave you alive to motivate a braindead town if you weren't possessed.

 

 

I don't like what you are setting up here. If you are scum this will be the best you've done fencing with me, then setting me up, possibly ever. 

 

You can't tell me you didn't see this coming regardless of anyone's alignment.

You're the only one putting in any real effort into the game.

You can't be this active in a game full of lurkers when mafia has a conversion power and not expect to be called out as a target.

 

 

 

Great point. Yet being an Ape expert he scum hunts like I eat at Buffets.  Constantly and without remorse.  When he is scum he scum hunts but pulls up a bit and after a couple days he's about as transparent as I am as scum.  So far this game I got him as town because he seems to be really beating the bushes and trying to find scum.  That being said he really would be a good conversion target. 

[John McClane]

I like how Crusher just hedged there, like big time. LOL

[Hallia]

That buddying pings pretty hard.

[berf]

Reading back through today. I leave for a day and ya'll get crazy.

 

Another great shot with the Cam, a poor vig shot on Sak earlier that I just read.

 

My head spinning this game, as are most. I agree I get a town read from Ape and from memory is hasn't been him leading the last few lunches anyway. I'm going to go have a look got some strong lynch presses that didn't go anywhere or peeps that seem to have an agenda.

 

In the land where everyone's head spins, the man with a straight hat is King.

[DPR]

It is so strange when you can't trust anyone around you. Or anything for that matter. Dap stares out of the attic window; a large and circular latticework of glass panes. He looks at the road that leads off of this farm and knows that it's only a few more hours until daylight. This madness had to end sometime, after all...

 

A crash behind him sets him spinning, his feet tangling up with one another and a cold hand of death does the rest.

 

Dap crashes through the glass and plummets to the brick pathway below.

 

DAP, TOWN, IS DEAD. 

[Nolder]

If anyone has/gets a FLIR camera a decent target would be Ape.

As I've noted he's a prime target for conversion so may already have been but if he's not clearing him up to this point would be a big help I think since he's put probably the most effort into actually scum hunting of anyone in this game.

[Nolder]

It is so strange when you can't trust anyone around you. Or anything for that matter. Dap stares out of the attic window; a large and circular latticework of glass panes. He looks at the road that leads off of this farm and knows that it's only a few more hours until daylight. This madness had to end sometime, after all...

 

A crash behind him sets him spinning, his feet tangling up with one another and a cold hand of death does the rest.

 

Dap crashes through the glass and plummets to the brick pathway below.

 

DAP, TOWN, IS DEAD. 

I forgot he was still in this game. No big loss imo.

[DPR]

Current Vote Count

 

Tress (3) - Basel, Rand, RTE

Ape (1) - Tress

Crusher (1) - Nolder

RTE (1) - Cloud

Mish (1) - Ape

Hallia (2) - Kronos, Crush

 

With 15 players, it takes 8 to lynch.

 

Deadline is in 27 hours.

[John McClane]

Nolder suddenly dead set on lynching me, or wasting a flir on me pings. Flir away, but it's starting to feel like he's doing some dirty steering now that I FOSed him. He's one of the only guys that got Flir and is alive no?

 

Wonder if he's directing the flir to me so he can cOnvert me after I show town. Why else bother directing the flir use, other than keeping it off scum?

[John McClane]

Dap dying brings tress to only 3 votes, looks like obvious frame of her, or wisdom of if she'd kill one of her voters.

 

Darte, mish, nolder, or RTE is my list

[Nolder]

Nolder suddenly dead set on lynching me, or wasting a flir on me pings. Flir away, but it's starting to feel like he's doing some dirty steering now that I FOSed him. He's one of the only guys that got Flir and is alive no?

 

Wonder if he's directing the flir to me so he can cOnvert me after I show town. Why else bother directing the flir use, other than keeping it off scum?

Let me ask you something.

Do you think what people say in mafia matters?

[John McClane]

Dap dying brings tress to only 3 votes, looks like obvious frame of her, or wisdom of if she'd kill one of her voters.

 

Darte, mish, nolder, or RTE is my list

[John McClane]

 

Nolder suddenly dead set on lynching me, or wasting a flir on me pings. Flir away, but it's starting to feel like he's doing some dirty steering now that I FOSed him. He's one of the only guys that got Flir and is alive no?

 

Wonder if he's directing the flir to me so he can cOnvert me after I show town. Why else bother directing the flir use, other than keeping it off scum?

Let me ask you something.

Do you think what people say in mafia matters?

Absolutely, yes... And positively not.

[Nolder]

 

 

Nolder suddenly dead set on lynching me, or wasting a flir on me pings. Flir away, but it's starting to feel like he's doing some dirty steering now that I FOSed him. He's one of the only guys that got Flir and is alive no?

 

Wonder if he's directing the flir to me so he can cOnvert me after I show town. Why else bother directing the flir use, other than keeping it off scum?

Let me ask you something.

Do you think what people say in mafia matters?

Absolutely, yes... And positively not.

 

Well let me just get to my point.

I think if you can be cleared without wasting a lynch on you, even if it's temporary, then that helps us a great deal.

Again I'd like to emphasize the point that you're putting the most effort into playing right now and confirming everything that you've said up until that point while having you still alive to contribute further is I think a big deal. We can go back and look at what you've said to and about people and what's been said to and about you (especially by scum) and I think really get enough info to probably end the game in towns favor if we're smart enough to connect all the dots. Again that's assuming you're still town. If not then uhh we'd just lynch you which is good enough for us anyway.

 

Granted after the hour passes in which you were cleared you're again a prime target for conversion, maybe even more so, but I think it's worth it.

It's not like you're not already probably a target for conversion nor does it make you anymore likely to be converted than anyone else who's been cleared does it?

 

I'm just trying to shine a little light on what otherwise looks like a really bleak endgame for town imo.

If we don't pull together and start making connections we're just gonna get whittled away until we lose.

Lynching a possessed once every few Hours does not help us win it only makes us hover in the bad position we're already in while we lose more and more people.

[Basel Gill]

Basel...why view leelou if you were concerned about tress yesterday. It seems like tress would be a more viable option.

 

Kronos, I'd been concerned about Leelou longer than I was about Tress. With that in mind, I figured it was more worthwhile between the two of them to deal with the issue of Leelou and put the suspicions I'd had on her to rest, one way or the other. Tress was my second choice, but I'd decided a few phases before I got the camera that Leelou was my first choice to view if I had a chance.

[michellem]

 

Really going back, I was too quick to vote for you Ape. You do provide very good insight, just in a more aggressive way than I'm used to.

Pinging.

 

Changing your mind so quickly??

 

unvote, vote hallia

 

 

This pinged me majorly too. That was a serious case of (unneeded) backtracking.

 

Not that I'm comfortable with you either Kronos; you have no right to use the newbie-card anymore.

 

 

 

Kronos is pinging to me. Firstly he keeps bringing up the newbie card (which he really shouldn't by this stage) and keeps repeating that he is confused etc. and now he seems to have a sure read on Hallia? Me thinks he is afraid of voting for RTE.

 

This is stretching. As either town or mafia, he wouldn't have to vote RTE now. You didn't think there was anyone off with Hallys quick unvote?

 

Nolder suddenly dead set on lynching me, or wasting a flir on me pings. Flir away, but it's starting to feel like he's doing some dirty steering now that I FOSed him. He's one of the only guys that got Flir and is alive no?

 

Wonder if he's directing the flir to me so he can cOnvert me after I show town. Why else bother directing the flir use, other than keeping it off scum?

 

Underlined: I thought this too.

 

 

 

Basel I'll place as town for this hour at least; him FLIRing Leelou would make no sense if he was also possessed.

 

 

I agree that RTE doesn't look to good with his Tress vote. But the one I'm most interested in right now, is Tigraine. She's been floating by for a very long time without any real pressure. I know she's been having Cloudflare and computer issues, but that doesn't mean she can't be recruited.