Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[WWWwombat]

There are 2 mafia.  DPR said that the mafia are called the Possessed.  He just said there are 2 Possessed.  Turin was almost certainly killed by the Possessed.  Anyone suggesting otherwise hasn't read the scene carefully enough.  He was killed and immediately afterward, we found out that cell service was down and the cars were sabotaged.  That does not sound like a vig to me.

[鲍勃不是我的名字]

Unvote.

[peacesells]

VOTE HALLIA

 

I still think she is the best out there.

 

 

Red and Talya...I'd like to see where my big defense of Hallia was.  I was pushing her lynch the whole time for christ's sake.  Just because I pointed out a discrepancy in EP's post does not make a defense of Hallia. 

[Nolder]

 

Ok fine, three mafia's seems like the most likely thing then. 

 

 

What I am saying is mathematically there are at least 3 scum unless you think Hour 1 started with 0, in which case there are at least 2.

There very well could be and likely are more than that as well as some third parties. But what we know and what we think we know are two different things and it's important to keep track of such things as the game goes on and we get more info.

You are all reaching at straws assuming 2 were recruited and I think you are all wrong. I think there was only 1 recruited.

 

So you think we started with 1 and another 1 was possessed for a total of 2?

That is a possibility I suppose.

[Nolder]

Eternal Phoenix checks the electrical cables again. He follows the cables, looking for any frayed spots or reason why Turin would have had trouble. Logic tells EP that a shock could have easily knocked Turin across the room, and as improbable as it sounded, he could have crashed through the window. he could have had cable coiled around him arm and they just pulled around his neck. All of this reasoning seemed much more likely than the presence of a malevolent entity...

 

Unbeknownst to EP, a FLIR camera is pointed in his direction. There is no way for him to know that an image of him suddenly appears upon a hand-hled screen.

 

 

Upon seeing that EP is human (Town), the holder of the camera slips away, no one the wiser.

lol

can't wait for EP to tell everyone to suck it

[peacesells]

 

Eternal Phoenix checks the electrical cables again. He follows the cables, looking for any frayed spots or reason why Turin would have had trouble. Logic tells EP that a shock could have easily knocked Turin across the room, and as improbable as it sounded, he could have crashed through the window. he could have had cable coiled around him arm and they just pulled around his neck. All of this reasoning seemed much more likely than the presence of a malevolent entity...

 

Unbeknownst to EP, a FLIR camera is pointed in his direction. There is no way for him to know that an image of him suddenly appears upon a hand-hled screen.

 

 

Upon seeing that EP is human (Town), the holder of the camera slips away, no one the wiser.

lol

can't wait for EP to tell everyone to suck it

 

Brilliant move by the mod. 

[WWWwombat]

Vote: No Lynch

 

With only 2 mafia, I doubt that we will gain any significant info from a lynch.  Given that the Possessed can add to their numbers at the expense of the town's numbers, I would rather not risk reducing the town's numbers until we have more info to work from or stand to gain more info from a lynch.

[Nolder]

 

 

Eternal Phoenix checks the electrical cables again. He follows the cables, looking for any frayed spots or reason why Turin would have had trouble. Logic tells EP that a shock could have easily knocked Turin across the room, and as improbable as it sounded, he could have crashed through the window. he could have had cable coiled around him arm and they just pulled around his neck. All of this reasoning seemed much more likely than the presence of a malevolent entity...

 

Unbeknownst to EP, a FLIR camera is pointed in his direction. There is no way for him to know that an image of him suddenly appears upon a hand-hled screen.

 

 

Upon seeing that EP is human (Town), the holder of the camera slips away, no one the wiser.

lol

can't wait for EP to tell everyone to suck it

 

Brilliant move by the mod. 

 

I think someone used a power, I don't think DPR chose to clear EP on his own if that's what you're trying to say.

[peacesells]

Vote: No Lynch

 

With only 2 mafia, I doubt that we will gain any significant info from a lynch.  Given that the Possessed can add to their numbers at the expense of the town's numbers, I would rather not risk reducing the towns' numbers until we have more info to work from or stand to gain more info from a lynch.

 

 

Horrible horrible logic.  You can't kill scum without killing.  With this logic we will be over run.  UNVOTE VOTE WOMBAT.

[_CLOUD]

Vote: No Lynch

 

With only 2 mafia, I doubt that we will gain any significant info from a lynch.  Given that the Possessed can add to their numbers at the expense of the town's numbers, I would rather not risk reducing the town's numbers until we have more info to work from or stand to gain more info from a lynch.

 

I agree.

 

Vote No Lynch

[Nolder]

Vote: No Lynch

 

With only 2 mafia, I doubt that we will gain any significant info from a lynch.  Given that the Possessed can add to their numbers at the expense of the town's numbers, I would rather not risk reducing the town's numbers until we have more info to work from or stand to gain more info from a lynch.

1. We don't know there are ONLY 2 mafia.

2. No Lynching just let's them get an extra member without even trying to whittle them down.

3. We don't know that we will get any more information from this point on, nothing is guaranteed.

 

Vote Wombat

[WWWwombat]

9:00 pm

 

There are 2 Possessed

 

Possessed = Mafia

 

There were 2 mafia at the start of this hour.

[DPR]

MOD CONFIRMATION: For players new to my games, I wanted to point out a things that I believe are fair to all for me to note:

 

1. I don't "bastard mod". Never have. Never will. This includes misleading players in any way, and by that, I mean that I build games that compliment your ability to solve the puzzle. So you can count on the information that I provide. You have to figure it out, but I won't pull the rug out from underneath you.

 

2. You can always ask questions in the thread - @MOD - or by PM. You never know what I'll answer...

 

3. I include game information in the scenes. A long time ago I used to include scenes for flavor only, but as the years went by, it just became a natural and unavoidable circumstance.

 

Hopefully that will help a bit.

[michellem]

Thank you DPR. That confirms it; we have two mafia, we started out with zero.

[_CLOUD]

Thank you DPR. That confirms it; we have two mafia, we started out with zero.

 

Yup.

[WWWwombat]

As for points 2 and 3:

 

2.  With the mafia having 2 members and the town having only 1 lynch, there is no way that the town as a whole can stop the Possessed from recruiting.

 

3.  We can be damn sure we will get more info later.  I suspect that this isn't the last FLIR camera scene we will see and even if it is, eventually we will start lynching players when the time is right and the info payoff is worth the numbers cost.

[Tyler Glembo]

Thank you DPR. That confirms it; we have two mafia, YES we started out with zero. NOT NECESSARILY

[peacesells]

As for points 2 and 3:

 

2.  With the mafia having 2 members and the town having only 1 lynch, there is no way that the town as a whole can stop the Possessed from recruiting.

 

3.  We can be damn sure we will get more info later.  I suspect that this isn't the last FLIR camera scene we will see and even if it is, eventually we will start lynching players when the time is right and the info payoff is worth the numbers cost.

 

And you condone getting even further behind the 8 ball?  So if we no lynch and the next hour there are 3 possessed, what then?  With 1 lynch we can't kill 3.  We can't kill 4, we can't kill 5. 

 

Explain your case better cause it looks to me like you are building a possessed force.

[peacesells]

Looks like we started with 1 possessed and 1 was recruited or more likely randomly assigned by the mod considering how fast it was.

[_CLOUD]

Ok so I will reveal some info now: 

 

I used the FLIR camera to check if Eternal Phoenix is a ghost or not. I started this game out as a Vanilla, and I got the item at the start of 09:00. It was an one-shot ability/item and I was told that it will expire at 10:00 or when a lynch is achieved.

[_CLOUD]

 

Thank you DPR. That confirms it; we have two mafia, YES we started out with zero. NOT NECESSARILY

 

 

Looks like we started with 1 possessed and 1 was recruited or more likely randomly assigned by the mod considering how fast it was.

 

This doesn't add up to the scene where all 33 investigators were viewed as town though.

[_CLOUD]

town = human.

[Gabriel Kross]

I don't like the push for a no lynch so early in the phase,

 

 

Thank you DPR. That confirms it; we have two mafia, YES we started out with zero. NOT NECESSARILY

 

^this I stated the most logical possibility already so why this is even still being brought up is beyond me. if there had been 0 mafia we would have won by default. Please try to think of these things before posts like these

 

Ok so I will reveal some info now: 

 

I used the FLIR camera to check if Eternal Phoenix is a ghost or not. I started this game out as a Vanilla, and I got the item at the start of 09:00. It was an one-shot ability/item and I was told that it will expire at 10:00 or when a lynch is achieved.

Why tell us this? There is absolutely no benefit to saying this at this time, sure you revert back to being a vanilla assuming you are even telling the truth, but why tell us right now when maybe you could have caught someone in a lie had you kept it to yourself.

 

I personally would like to go back to trying to lynch Peace. I think he is mafia.

 

VOTE PEACE

[peacesells]

Maybe some mod clarification...could be a mistake like his vote count.

[Nolder]

Ok I'll agree there are 2 possessed right now, DPR's language is clear on that count. That does not mean there are only 2 scum. There could easily be more than one scum team not to mention third parties.

 

What I don't understand Wombat is why you think we can't stop recruiting. How do you know there aren't a limited amount of recruitment opportunities? What if there is a cult leader and killing them stops the recruiting? Not sure if you're slipping or what but that doesn't add up at all.