Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[_CLOUD]

Only have two Possesed players at "Day 2" makes things really difficult, and I'm guessing that the longer the game goes on, the more people will be possesed. Town will be losing a lot of players in the beginning, but after a while we reach a point where it has become a normal mafia game.

 

This is just speculation btw.

 

@TG: I don't know how Turin died. That's why I'm also not really sure about my theory, and I don't know how seriously DPR takes his scenes either..

[_CLOUD]

Ok fine, three mafia's seems like the most likely thing then. 

[Nolder]

What I am saying is mathematically there are at least 3 scum unless you think Hour 1 started with 0, in which case there are at least 2.

There very well could be and likely are more than that as well as some third parties. But what we know and what we think we know are two different things and it's important to keep track of such things as the game goes on and we get more info.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

 

Wait so how did Turin die?

 

 

 

Well, we again failed to reach a voting majority (kinda sad really) and instead of getting one or more random deaths with or without coroner reports we now know that there are 2 Possesed. At the start of the game DPR wrote a scene where all the investigators got on a photo together and they scanned it and everyone viewed as human, so I'm guessing that everyone started out as town. 

 

 

 

I doubt that the game started out with one mafia who's job is to recruit others, that would seem to risky imo and it would be possible to end the game within one game hour, unless that person has a bunch of abilities that could prevent a lynch etc. etc. 

 

My crazy theory is that DPR is the original ghost, and he uses random.org to recruit town players to Possesed players.

 

 

So how did Turin die then Cloud?  You really think DPR started the game with 0 scum and just decided to randomly kill players?  I don't think so. 

 

That logic is incorrect, as we know there are objects in this game, someone could have recieved a kill object and targeted Turin based on him actually appearing to be scum. Or we could have a third party as well, I doubt it, becuase there are only 2 win conditions posted in the 

[Gabriel Kross]

rules*

[Tyler Glembo]

 

This was the conclusion I reached. Minimum of 3 right now. 

 

Which makes me look at that "there's a bunch of scum on XYZ's train" illogical crapola from TGlems (was that the right name?)

 

So do we just vote now? Do we have to unvote from the 8PM hour?

 

Vote TGlems

 

 

Yes, that was me. 

 

I would still be unsurprised by having a couple scum who are pushing lynches/are on the leading train.  I'm guessing nobody knows what happens when no lynch is achieved at deadline.  John, which do you think is the bigger risk for scum; no lynch achieved and a random consequence or pushing for lynches ("scum"hunting) while trying to look town and having a couple players on the leading train? 

[Gabriel Kross]

Ok fine, three mafia's seems like the most likely thing then. 

 

 

What I am saying is mathematically there are at least 3 scum unless you think Hour 1 started with 0, in which case there are at least 2.

There very well could be and likely are more than that as well as some third parties. But what we know and what we think we know are two different things and it's important to keep track of such things as the game goes on and we get more info.

You are all reaching at straws assuming 2 were recruited and I think you are all wrong. I think there was only 1 recruited.

[_CLOUD]

The rooms are covered in dust. Obviously, no one has been in this house for years. As you walk the halls and shine your light into different rooms, you can't help but wonder where the murders took place. You also wonder why the house had never been razed and it occurs to you that no one has said if it was ever actually inhabited after those murders. From the looks of things, you suspect not.

 

The murmur of other people talking floats through the hall, almost imperceptible. 

 

You have seen nothing yet that appears to be paranormal and truth told, you sort of doubt you will with this many people about.

 

A sudden crash and breaking glass punctuate the quiet... A scream follows and you rush toward it, your previous thoughts scattered.

 

 

"Ohh! What the hell!!! Somebody get him down!!"

 

Turin hangs limply against the outside of the house, electrical cords wrapped around his neck.

 

For a group that seemed so prepared, it takes an excruciatingly long time to get him down, and by the time you do he is quite still.

 

The festive mood is chilled, and now sober thoughts take over.

 

"Somebody call an ambulance! Who knows CPR?" 

 

"My phone doesn't have any service - who does?!"

 

Heads shake as people stare at useless phones...

 

"Pull the truck around, we'll take him ourselves...wWHO KNOWS CPR?!"

 

Feet pound across the dirt driveway as you stare at Turin's unmoving body. More screams and arguing come from the cars.

 

"They've been trashed! Somebody got to the cars! and sabotaged the engines...we're going nowhere!"

 

You spin around to see somebody finally breathing into Turin's mouth, then wildly pumping his chest. This goes on for several minutes, but to no avail.

 

TURIN, TOWN, IS DEAD.

 

Tragedy has scattered your ability to focus as you stare at Turin's lifeless body. 

[_CLOUD]

^ Turin's death scene. 

[Tyler Glembo]

 

That logic is incorrect, as we know there are objects in this game, someone could have recieved a kill object and targeted Turin based on him actually appearing to be scum. Or we could have a third party as well, I doubt it, becuase there are only 2 win conditions posted in the 

 

 

Yes, a town vig could have pulled the trigger on a player who was likely going to get lynched anyways.  Seems doubtful to me.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

This was the conclusion I reached. Minimum of 3 right now. 

 

Which makes me look at that "there's a bunch of scum on XYZ's train" illogical crapola from TGlems (was that the right name?)

 

So do we just vote now? Do we have to unvote from the 8PM hour?

 

Vote TGlems

 

 

Yes, that was me. 

 

I would still be unsurprised by having a couple scum who are pushing lynches/are on the leading train.  I'm guessing nobody knows what happens when no lynch is achieved at deadline.  John, which do you think is the bigger risk for scum; no lynch achieved and a random consequence or pushing for lynches ("scum"hunting) while trying to look town and having a couple players on the leading train? 

 

Statistically speeking a failed majority would be better for the mafia/scum as at the start of the game there are less of them and odds are the consequence won't hit them

[Gabriel Kross]

 

 

That logic is incorrect, as we know there are objects in this game, someone could have recieved a kill object and targeted Turin based on him actually appearing to be scum. Or we could have a third party as well, I doubt it, becuase there are only 2 win conditions posted in the 

 

 

Yes, a town vig could have pulled the trigger on a player who was likely going to get lynched anyways.  Seems doubtful to me.

 

There was no gurantee he would have gotten lynched, also someone could have jumped the gun, you guys really like to assume the most unlikely possibilities don't you?

[michellem]

I'm trying to post and DM won't let me!!!!

[michellem]

NOW it let me. Goddamnit. Let's see if I can post my really long psot then.

[Tyler Glembo]

You are all reaching at straws assuming 2 were recruited and I think you are all wrong. I think there was only 1 recruited.

 

This.  Thinking about it this way make some sense.  Game started with 1 possessed. They get to keep recruiting as game goes on.  There are now a total of 2 possessed.

 

Which makes me wrong about the possible scum on Hally's train if there was only 1 possessed to start the game.

 

Then again, there could be more than ghosts.  Maybe there are 3 poltergeists and 3 ghouls and they can turn people possessed.  We dont' know.

[michellem]

I think I gotta split this up... Let's try how that works.

 

 

I've been trying to post this for twenty minutes now and DM won't let me!!!!!!!!

 

I'm done catching up half an hour after deadline. Great.

 

I think Cloud's theory is a good one; with the scenes it absolutley does fit.

 

 

 

 

 

Leelou; exactly how would an Ithi lynch give us more information than a Turin lynch? It's a very easy sentence to throw out, that basically says nothing. I'd like to hear your exact thought process on Ithi vs Turin.

 

 Because the way she flips you can go back and look at the way people reacted with her or just about her lynch train in general. Why does that really need to be explained? I would like to hear your thoughts on the game.

This answers nothing, really. The bit in blue would also have applied to a Turin lynch, or a lynch on anyone else. So why does an Ithi lynch become more informative than a different lynch?

 

 

 

 

Turins kill strikes me as a DK by a vig.

 

#383: Mish: blatant buddying and defense of Ithi noted.

*sarcasm* yep Ithi totally won't give more info than Turin. because its not liek Turin has had all of 1 post worth anything and there isn’t a train of 6 on Ithi and she’s had the most interactions with people in this game

yep, totally no info there *eyeroll*

 

  

 

Red: I never said Ithi's lynch wouldn't give information. But I found Leelou's comment lazy and non-commital. It's very easy to say "this persons lynch will give more information that that persons lynch". Every lynch gives information; so I was curious about her exacts reasons why Ithi's would give more than Turins. I hadn't decided on any of them; as my lack of vote shows. Leelou's reply didn't make it any bettter; Basel said exactly what I though there. I thought both were good lynch candidates then (now Turin is dead and Ithi has claimed an object, that fits too exavt into the flavour of scenes for me to doubt it's legitimacy). Leelou has been parroting others and throwing out statements that doesn't really say anything. That places her on my list of suspects, and should put her on yours too.

[Tyler Glembo]

 

There was no gurantee he would have gotten lynched, also someone could have jumped the gun, you guys really like to assume the most unlikely possibilities don't you?

 

 

I think the most unlikely possibility is that a town pulled the trigger on Turin.  There are a number of other possibilities that we have no idea about.

[michellem]

Part 2:

 

 

 

 

Hallia's play is really strangevote hallia

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quote name=Hallia" post="2910077" timestamp="1368927236]Don't just go along with the mainstream wolfie; what about my play is strange, can you say exactly why?

  

 

Its been said...for someone who thinks ithi is town you surd are doing a good job of advocatting her lynch

 

 

Wow. How hasn't anyone else pointed out this? Laziest vote of the day. By this time Hallia had cleared up that she wanted consolidation on herself, not Ithi. And Kronos just tags along ignoring that. The rest of his play D1 wasn't spotless either. First one to actually place a vote on Turin, and after that he just followed along everyone else, never giving any original input.

[_CLOUD]

The rules didn't say anything about poltergeists or ghosts. 

[michellem]

PArt 3:

 

 

 

 

The first person to vote for me has confirmed they did so for no reason. Other people have voted for me for innacurate reasons - and then ignored my correction. Yet other people have voted me because they apparently agree with the previous horse poo made up cases - and yet another just says vote me cos of the info. Now 'consoloidation' is being advised.

Why am I not surprised.

Turin got killed and I'm to be Lynched.

In other news I do really have a limited shot item that allows me to stop ghosts.

But feel free to carry on with your 'consolidation'

Also I'd love to see how EP acting like a twonk has got anything to do with me. Please explain how I'm encouraging him when I want him gone.

And post numbers mean nothing to me. I don't ever use the full version.

 

 

 

Thats cool you got something to stop ghosts.  Yet without the townies getting a PM how did you find out?  Like a lottery?  I won $50 on a scratch off once. Bought some KFC for me and Baby Crusher.

  

 

Apologies. I am having a day out with my eldest.

I have been given a number of protective prayers and a link to an external website. They are quite specific. Don't push me for more. You are not going to get it at this time.

I wasn't sent a PM at the start of the game but shortly afterwards.

I should be able to get back on about 8pm GMT tonight once the monkeys are in bed. I have no idea what time that is in America Land.

And apparently I'm too agressive and also not aggressive enough. Wonderful.

I still think EP is the way to go. He hasn't been narked off at me and has even been defending me - even before I revealed. Of course this could mean he saw through all the rubbish that was being spouted or he knew I was Town.

He also seems to have calmed down a little of late - when before he was bouncing off the ceiling and saying there was no way anyone was going to get him to change his play.

Hallia messed up the rules again lol. Silly mistake or totally on purpose move to maintain noobism creds? She also unvoted with the speed of light when I revealed.

Other people who previously thought me mafia now think me Town. I appreciate the vote of confidence but when that happens it makes my teeth itch. Some seem to say almost getting me killed on D1 was an on purpose ploy to flush out the real Mafia. Others don't really say much at all.

But I've just used my spare 10 minutes up now and have to go.

Skimmer much Crusher? Ithi had already posted this last post I quoted here before you made that post. And there's over an hour between the timestamps. She'd already explained how she got the item.

 

Other things that's caught my eye is Ape that seems determined to skim, that Verb hasn't bothered to go after others doing the same exact thing he went after me for (people saying "this person is being their normal self). Hallia I have a town feel on; she plays smarter when she's mafia. Cloud I'm unsure of; he might have posted his theory because that's exactly what happened to him... And hoping to gain town cred by being the first to "think of it".

 

 

Vote Leelou

[michellem]

Finally.

[Tyler Glembo]

The rules didn't say anything about poltergeists or ghosts. 

 

I don't think the rules are going to give us the details of the scum team.  I'll go with EP though and take DPRs statement at face value, saying it is likely that there are, literally, 2 ghosts right now.  Which means two scum and a recruit mechanic.

[Gabriel Kross]

 

You are all reaching at straws assuming 2 were recruited and I think you are all wrong. I think there was only 1 recruited.

 

This.  Thinking about it this way make some sense.  Game started with 1 possessed. They get to keep recruiting as game goes on.  There are now a total of 2 possessed.

 

Which makes me wrong about the possible scum on Hally's train if there was only 1 possessed to start the game.

 

Then again, there could be more than ghosts.  Maybe there are 3 poltergeists and 3 ghouls and they can turn people possessed.  We dont' know.

 

Except that the Rules say it is town vs possesed, I did mention third party in a previous post and also mentioned why it'd be unlikely the thing with DPR's games that you need to know is that if he says it's this vs that, you're either a this or a that end of story I argued against that in his spider game, but I had never played a DPR game before that (unless the Jaws game came first on JN? but I was mostly absent that game)

[Tyler Glembo]

Except that the Rules say it is town vs possesed, I did mention third party in a previous post and also mentioned why it'd be unlikely the thing with DPR's games that you need to know is that if he says it's this vs that, you're either a this or a that end of story I argued against that in his spider game, but I had never played a DPR game before that (unless the Jaws game came first on JN? but I was mostly absent that game)

 

 

This is my first DPR game.  If you have experience with it then I'll keep a little skepticism but move forward with that assumption.

[DPR]

Eternal Phoenix checks the electrical cables again. He follows the cables, looking for any frayed spots or reason why Turin would have had trouble. Logic tells EP that a shock could have easily knocked Turin across the room, and as improbable as it sounded, he could have crashed through the window. he could have had cable coiled around him arm and they just pulled around his neck. All of this reasoning seemed much more likely than the presence of a malevolent entity...

 

Unbeknownst to EP, a FLIR camera is pointed in his direction. There is no way for him to know that an image of him suddenly appears upon a hand-hled screen.

 

 

Upon seeing that EP is human (Town), the holder of the camera slips away, no one the wiser.