Ghost Mafia - 3 out of 33 survive - Town wins!

[WWWwombat]

The North Spreadsheet remembers.

[WWWwombat]

The North Spreadsheet remembers.

[LilyElizabeth]

The Rand train seems to be gaining traction. 

 

Unvote

Vote Rand

[Gabriel Kross]

I can't find the spreadsheet atm, but as I should be writing anyways searching right this second is a distraction.

[Songstress]

The North Spreadsheet remembers.

 

Indeed.

 

[dapianoplay3r]

 

If you were mafia in this game, why would you need to get on a train of someone this early? It's a huge game, there is literally no need.

Also let the back tracking begin!

 

 

Because everyone here seems to "know" that scum would never do it this way. Thus, if I were scum I'd do it exactly this way.

  

I'm not saying they wouldn't, I'm saying there is no need. It's an unnessacary risk

Mafia dont like those

 

Also, with a game this big it's hard for me to imagine that by end game someone is actually going to go back and analyze who was on what lynches through the whole game.  Thus, it isn't a terribly unsafe place for scum to hide.  Especially D1.  By D4 they, undoubtedly, will have to be more careful.

Have you never played with most the people in this game before or something?

Regardless of that its Darthes pet thing to do exactly that.

Like wombat says, any good player will be looking over VCs for patterns and tells. I garentee that most players in this game will do that at some point and some will even build cases out of it

[Vambram]

VOTE Rand

 

He appeared to be too aggressive in his defense of EP. 

[dapianoplay3r]

Why not

 

vote rand

[Hallia]

I'm ok with consolidating on Rand.

 

Unvote

Vote Rand

[Basel Gill]

Womby wanted to be sure we heard his thoughts. 

And then some.

 

 

But, if that isn't a good comparison then I'll try to think of others. The WWII game here comes to mind where Ithi was scum and leading lynches left and right for the first 4 days.  There were at least two scum on every mislynch that took place.

I'm not seeing this as a valid comparison, since there were two scum teams in that game, and the mafia were legitimately scumhunting like everyone else.

[Red2111]

late night drunk mafia *looks at player* join me in appletinis?

 

fast read the pages, saw a lot worth comment but i'm too lazy to do any of it right now /EP impression.

 

seriously though, we have a death and a train on that death and were consolidating votes without even examining that? scum driven lynch much?

 

and we're going after Rand for a bit of defending. you want setting up Lynches, what about Peaces brilliant "oh if EPs alive D2 then hes scum" or Clouds recent

"if Halia's alive D2 shes scum" posts?

 

 

ya'll want to go for someone, how about scumtastic Peace. especially since now he's so hard on for Halias lynch when before he was fence sitting it. distancing much.

 

 

and Darth, you can't call my post craptastic and not back it up.

 

@ EP - go crawl up another tree, i know your game and i dont dance the spastic clutz

 

 

*looks at drink* needs more vodka.

 

 

edit - keep my damn sentance breaks you flamming goat hearder of a slaptastic post you!

 

 

also, really Halia. "i think Ithi is town, i'm gonna vote her to prove i'm right"

 

*smh*

[RandA lThor]

Don't have time to reread back to where I left off right now, I just saw someone post consolidate on Rand.  I am vanilla town, won't really lose too much, if I die before I get a chance to reread, use my lynch for information well.

[Nolder]

I don't like these two new trains that built up pretty much overnight

Feels like someone is running interference for either Ithi or Hallia

Of the two I think it was more likely for Ithi since people weren't giving her a reasonable out unlike Hallia who could still play the dumbtown or stillanewbie card

I also don't like how Ithi's item/role reveal was so vague

 

Vote Ithi

[Red2111]

fine, case on Peace comming up. *mumbles*

 

 

 

 

It's about time, now we can have an epic peace vs ep arguement for old times sake

I'm ready.

Current Vote Count:

 

Mish (1) - Cloud

RTE (1) - Nolder

Peace (1) - NotBob

Ape (1) - Rand

NotBob (1) - EP

Ishy (1) - Tress

EP (2) - Ithi, Turin

Ithi (4) - Crush, Wombat, Ape, Leelou

Turin (1) - Kronos

 

With 33 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour turns May 19th, 9:00 am.

VOTE APE

 

For being the 3rd voter. 3rd voter is a great place for scum to hide.

everything said up to this point, this i all he gives as a vote reason. its lazy and no comment at all on anything that had happened up to that point.

 

 

 

 

That reasoning makes no sense Peace we're well past joke vote phase, why did you not comment at all on anything of pertinence?

 

UNVOTE VOTE PEACE

 

this was a very bad move on your part Peace

Unvote Vote Peace

 

Third to vote has next to no relevance in today's mafia. It may have been a viable tell 10 years ago but today it's a known and outdated strategy that next to no one plans around.

Additionally in a game this size it has even less bearing.

Wow..those are some quick actions based on little to no thought. Opportunism strikes. Get it while it's hot.

as was your vote. pot meet the kettles. look you guys can form a band.

 

 

 

 

That reasoning makes no sense Peace we're well past joke vote phase, why did you not comment at all on anything of pertinence?

 

UNVOTE VOTE PEACE

 

this was a very bad move on your part Peace

Have you even known me to joke vote? I never joke vote. There is always a real reason behind my votes. Why would you even mention joke votes except to make your stance look stronger than it is?

over defensive reaction to his vote being called a joke.

 

 

UNVOTE VOTE TURIN

no posts about Turin at all, but switches his vote to him when the wagon starts to build

 

 

 

 

Honestly, I wonder if there are no scum yet. After all, in the scene everybody checked out as normal human. If there is scum though, EP outed himself.

vote EP

 

 

 

who and what are you agreeing with? As you are the only one voting Verbal currently don't you think you should possibly state why that is the case? whether Verbal flips mafia or town you look bad the way this sits, if he flips mafia you burried you vote early so you get the "I can't be scum" defense, however if he flips town you look really bad due to having no reasoning for your vote.

 

Asking someone a "question", then saying ahead of time that nomatter what they answer you will consider it scummy is bad play. Either ask them a legit question or just tell them they are scummy. Don't try to pretend like you're scum hunting by doing this.

If EP survives til day 2 then he is scum.

setting up lynches for another day.

 

 

Let's just lynch Hallia and get on with it.

 

Tress..why didn't you address the Hallia situation one way or another?

 

Very suspicious to ignore the latest and scummiest happenings all together.

 

 

I hope there is one more person that can come in here and explain EP's play style for us. Thank you for that Tress....very enlightening.

 

i could ask the same of you. you didn't start going hard on after Halia until the prospect lynch started pulling some support. you didn't even mention it in your first post, which was posted after she did her original "omg no role PM" post.

 

 

Wow tglems. You seem unreasonably sure a couple players are town. How would you know that?

here you're blowing TGI's post out of proportion. he posted who he thought was town and scum (something almost all of us have done btw, including yoruself), not "i'm sure x is scum" unlike what you've done twice on Halia now.

[dapianoplay3r]

Ill give it a go red

Going out for dinner first but then will gin it up I think

[Red2111]

and now to examine the info around Turin

 

 

Turin is role fishing, nice.

first person to call Turin out on role fishing

 

 

 

 

EP looking to use meta for defense. Nice.

 

 

Big reaction to Ithi voting EP.

 

Wombat, was that a role hint with all that tomfoolery about coils and such?

Turin is role fishing, nice.

He's not even being subtle about it. I could move my vote there.

dittos it

 

 

 

 

 

EP looking to use meta for defense. Nice.

 

 

Big reaction to Ithi voting EP.

 

Wombat, was that a role hint with all that tomfoolery about coils and such?

Turin is role fishing, nice.

He's not even being subtle about it. I could move my vote there.

I am going to move my vote there

 

vote Turin

first to vote over it

 

 

You know when they said that Turin was Role Fishing I was ... hang on a minute. DPR said that Town didn't get PMs - and that would mean we didn't have any Roles! Then the penny dropped that I was an idiot and it just meant if you didn't have a role you didn't get a PM and so were just vanilla Town.

 

This game is going to kill my phone.

defense of Turin imo.

 

 

 

 

 

Care to give any original thought on why instead of just quoting others?

 

To Leelou

Turin - for his role fishing

Ithi and EP to do with how they are reacting to each other and votes on them.

Also could go for NotBob since he hasn't said I'm scummy yet.

 

And how about you, any votes yet? You don't know the way I play. FYI - I'm quite spammy until I settle into the game.

Turin, I could agree, it feels like he forgot not everyone has role PMs (because he has one) and made a mistake there. EP and Ithi I feel like are jus doing their regular thing so far.

 

I know I don't know the way you play, it's why I'm asking.

 

I'm not even gonna think about voting right now, I'm half drunk and have a migraine

decides to comment on Leelous 4th push for Turins lynch. implies she could vote for him over the role fishing.

 

 

Unvote, Vote Turin

vote with no reason or thoughts.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Why is Mish more worth a vote than them?

She's not - she just happened to be the most recent one to say it when I was thinking about it.

So you don't actually think she is Mafia then? She just happened to be wearing a Red Shirt when your phaser went off?

LOL. +1 to Ithi.

 

Meantime, I finally got all 15 pages read after I got home. I'm going to go with voting Turin because I think he seemed to be going fishing.

 

Vote Turin.

piles on the Turin wagon for the same reasoning

 

 

 

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Mish (1) - Verb

Peace (2) - EP, Nolder

Ape (2) - Rand, Peace

Ishy (1) - Tress

EP (3) - Ithi, Turin, NB

Ithi (5) - Crush, Wombat, Ape, Leelou, Lily

Turin (3) - Kronos, Cloud, Basel

Hallia (1) - Kae

Kae (1) - Turin

Verbal (1) - Tina

 

With 33 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour turns May 19th, 9:00 am.

I do agree there are way too many people in the game. I'd prefer we went for someone we could potentially get some information out of instead of an inactive or Ishy who isn't playing.

 

EP - Seems to play a little like Mynd but a lot more amateurish and too much caffeine. Don't know what to think about him, but may provide info

 

Ithi - did get a little defensive and said about 3 times that she had started on EP, before he had her. She isn't playing like she sis in the last game I played with ehr, but I have only played with her once, so that counts for zilch. For information, she may give us the most.

 

Turin - Didn't like his role fishing, then went a little quieter, I would go for a lynch on him.

 

Verb - I can't remember what he said before, will have to search for it, I'd be happy to go for a lynch on him.

 

So as it stands:

 

VOTE TURIN

others offer better lynch options, but she jumps on the wagon

 

 

 

 

 

 

Current Vote Count:

 

Mish (1) - Verb

Peace (2) - EP, Nolder

Ape (2) - Rand, Peace

Ishy (1) - Tress

EP (3) - Ithi, Turin, NB

Ithi (5) - Crush, Wombat, Ape, Leelou, Lily

Turin (3) - Kronos, Cloud, Basel

Hallia (1) - Kae

Kae (1) - Turin

Verbal (1) - Tina

 

With 33 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour turns May 19th, 9:00 am.

I do agree there are way too many people in the game. I'd prefer we went for someone we could potentially get some information out of instead of an inactive or Ishy who isn't playing.

 

EP - Seems to play a little like Mynd but a lot more amateurish and too much caffeine. Don't know what to think about him, but may provide info

 

Ithi - did get a little defensive and said about 3 times that she had started on EP, before he had her. She isn't playing like she sis in the last game I played with ehr, but I have only played with her once, so that counts for zilch. For information, she may give us the most.

 

Turin - Didn't like his role fishing, then went a little quieter, I would go for a lynch on him.

 

Verb - I can't remember what he said before, will have to search for it, I'd be happy to go for a lynch on him.

 

So as it stands:

 

VOTE TURIN

Like I've been saying, I could also go for a Turin lynch, but at this point I think there would be more info out of an Ithi lynch.

fence sits on the Turin lynch though advocates it. slight distancing from her earlier eagerness.

 

 

Leelou; exactly how would an Ithi lynch give us more information than a Turin lynch? It's a very easy sentence to throw out, that basically says nothing. I'd like to hear your exact thought process on Ithi vs Turin.

argues for Turins lynch over Ithis while having a vote on neither.

 

 

UNVOTE VOTE TURIN

vote on Turin out of left field

 

 

Starting to think Ithi could be town. Turin is super dirty though.

 

unvote

Vote: Turin

 

suddenly changes mind about Ithi. never explains what he means by "Super Dirty"

 

 

Hmmm

Let's see where this goes

 

Unvote

Vote Turin

 

wagoning for the sake of wagoning

[Red2111]

so last post, then i'm off to bed.

 

the people on Turins wagon that are worth pressuring are

 

Leelou - most eager about Turins wagon imo

 

Peace & Nol - votes were most opportunistic

 

Mish - pushed Turins lynch without getting her hands dirty on it.

 

 

Peace and Mish are the scummiest people from Turins lynch. we should be voting there

[dapianoplay3r]

That defense of turin post you qjoted red, ut hinted to me that she had either a role or was mafia

As well

[Talya]

If we need to consolidate, I'd rather it be on Ithi than me, if she's telling the truth.  I don't have any special powers. Of course, I'd rather us do so on actual scum.

 

not sure if this is what she really meant and back tracked later, or she did get it wrong. But reading it a few times it does sound like she meant to lynch her. She has made quite a few silly mistakes in this game, I'm leaning town at the moment. 

 

 

 

If we need to consolidate, I'd rather it be on Ithi than me, if she's telling the truth.  I don't have any special powers. Of course, I'd rather us do so on actual scum.

Ok so you admit to not having any ability yet you said you would rather consolidate onto Ithi who is claiming an item... this statement makes absolutely 0 sense

 

your power of reading comprehension fail are amazing.

 

 

You seem to defend Hally way too much. She did say it wrong and it was picked up. People were pushing the Hally lynch and you are defending her so hard, like you KNOW she will flip town. 

 

So let's see, 3 people jump to defend EP saying that he is always scummy so they want to give him a pass?  At least EP tried to deflect my case on him, whereas other people try to push it away on the grounds of meta.

 

Then we have Cloud and others voting Hallia after explaining multiple different rules to her for, supposedly, trying to pull a gambit with the rules?  Or something?  I don't get the case on Hallia at all.  A big FoS on everyone voting Hallia because you are either town hurting town or you are scum. 

 

I'm keeping my vote on EP.  I'm willing to switch to Cloud, Rand, or anyone else voting Hallia atm. 

 

Also Wombat, quadruple post?  Lol

 

Actually if she is town then she is hurting town by not reading the rules correctly. I was beginning to think it was an act after her first blunder, but after Peace keeping defending her so I'm thinking not. Plus after the post where she would prefer to consolidate on her than Ithi. 

 

 

Don't most people disagree with that?

You seem to be seeing something different to most others then

 

Exactly, and at this stage in the game I don't see town coalescing on a single person to vote.  Instead I expect town to be scattered.  So, that means that the Hally train likely has plenty of scum on it.

 

 

This has been brought up already, but I will say it anyway. We don't know what Mafia will do. Here you say there are plenty of scum on the Hally vote, then later you say 1 or 2, well 1 mafia on the  lynch certainly isn't 'plenty' of scum and 2 is pushing the phase as well. This looks like you are trying to make all those on this lynch so far possible mafia, directing away from other, maybe you and Peace, because you are both so adamant that Hally is town.

 

 

 

30 person game. Multiple trains budding. Makes absolutely NO sense that there'd be multiple scum on one train. Huge leap in logic here. 

 

I feel good heaping a whole big pile of FOS on you.

 

 

Yes, scum is likely somewhat scattered, but, for the sake of argument, if Hally is town then you and I both know there is at least 1 or 2 scum on her train.

 

 

As said above 1 or 2 is not plenty.

 

 

Also, with a game this big it's hard for me to imagine that by end game someone is actually going to go back and analyze who was on what lynches through the whole game.  Thus, it isn't a terribly unsafe place for scum to hide.  Especially D1.  By D4 they, undoubtedly, will have to be more careful.

 

This again has been said, but yes I look at the lynches too, just because you might not, don't wrap everyone else in how you play. 

 

As for Ithi, again a train has stalled on her and gathered on others. As for Objects. not sure if she had this from the start or was given it on day one and what this object does - Ithi can you give us more information on this. Nor sure at this point if objects given will go to people randomly, this means anyone could have an object, town or mafia. 

 

Still not sure about Ithi being mafia at this point. 

 

I would be happy to go with Peace or TG at the moment. 

 

I will have to go and have a look at Rand, he hasn't stood out to me so far. 

[Ithillian Turambar]

Apologies. I am having a day out with my eldest.

 

I have been given a number of protective prayers and a link to an external website. They are quite specific. Don't push me for more. You are not going to get it at this time.

 

I wasn't sent a PM at the start of the game but shortly afterwards.

 

I should be able to get back on about 8pm GMT tonight once the monkeys are in bed. I have no idea what time that is in America Land.

 

And apparently I'm too agressive and also not aggressive enough. Wonderful.

 

I still think EP is the way to go. He hasn't been narked off at me and has even been defending me - even before I revealed. Of course this could mean he saw through all the rubbish that was being spouted or he knew I was Town.

 

He also seems to have calmed down a little of late - when before he was bouncing off the ceiling and saying there was no way anyone was going to get him to change his play.

 

Hallia messed up the rules again lol. Silly mistake or totally on purpose move to maintain noobism creds? She also unvoted with the speed of light when I revealed.

 

Other people who previously thought me mafia now think me Town. I appreciate the vote of confidence but when that happens it makes my teeth itch. Some seem to say almost getting me killed on D1 was an on purpose ploy to flush out the real Mafia. Others don't really say much at all.

 

But I've just used my spare 10 minutes up now and have to go.

[berf]

Still not sold on a vote to anyone. Train is pointing toward Rand and for me, its Rand or Tglems based on what I've been reading and seeing from them.

 

Of course EP is always an option.

[_CLOUD]

TG isn’t making much sense and him FoSing everyone who was voting for Hallia saying that we are either town hurting town or scum, is pinging a lot to me. He seems to be quite sure that Hallia will flip town, and I don’t find lynching someone who hasn’t read the rules to be hurting town, quite the opposite in fact. I also doubt that the scum would pile on a train this early in the game; a lot of the players haven’t even been that active yet so I see no reason for scum to stick their necks out by leading trains this early in the game.

 

It made sense to vote for Rand because he was defending EP a lot and also planned cases on both Hallia and Lily in case Ithi flips town, but now he claims Vanilla and he seems ok with getting lynched. I will vote for Rand because we need  to consolidate, but I’d rather lynch TG at the moment.

 

 

Hallia.. most players are seeing her mistakes to be genuine but I still have my doubts regarding her. I have more of a town read on her now than last night though because TG is so certain that she will flip town.

 

I think Ithi is town; as always she has been playing the role of the aggressive scumhunter and I trust her claim.

 

 

Unvote, Vote Rand

[Niniel]

I have big problems with Cloudflare. I have read the thread but only have notes to page 17. After that I have been able to get on just a short time at a time. 

 

I find it strange that a lot of people talked about or fos´d Verbal but I was the only one who voted him. He is not on much on weekends but I hope to hear more from him tomorrow. 

 

I don´t know about Rand but I will bandwagon to get a lynch. 

 

Unvote. Vote Rand.

 

Hopefully more thoughts tonight if Cloudflare let me. 

[DPR]

Current Vote Count:

 

Mish (1) - Verb

Peace (1) - EP

Ishy (1) - Darthe

EP (3) - Ithi, NB, TGlems

Ithi (4) - Crush, Leelou, Rand, Nolder

Hallia (4) - Kae, Peace, Basel, Kronos

No Lynch (1) - Red

Rand (9) - Ape, Wombat, Tress, EP, Lily, Vambram, dap, Hally, Cloud, Tina

 

With 32 players, it takes 17 to lynch. The hour turns May 19th,  9:00 am EST.

[The Crusher]

The first person to vote for me has confirmed they did so for no reason. Other people have voted for me for innacurate reasons - and then ignored my correction. Yet other people have voted me because they apparently agree with the previous horse poo made up cases - and yet another just says vote me cos of the info. Now 'consoloidation' is being advised.

 

Why am I not surprised.

 

Turin got killed and I'm to be Lynched.

 

In other news I do really have a limited shot item that allows me to stop ghosts.

 

But feel free to carry on with your 'consolidation'

 

Also I'd love to see how EP acting like a twonk has got anything to do with me. Please explain how I'm encouraging him when I want him gone.

 

And post numbers mean nothing to me. I don't ever use the full version.

 

 

Thats cool you got something to stop ghosts.  Yet without the townies getting a PM how did you find out?  Like a lottery?  I won $50 on a scratch off once. Bought some KFC for me and Baby Crusher.