[Advanced] US Presidents Mafia - MAFIA WIN

[Darthe]

Notably, (sorry, still catching up on the reading) Snow was an SK and not mafia which I thought.  @ED that should be in a color other than Red you sneaky person.

 

This means he was killed by the mafia so... today should be lylo.

 

We should have three mafia left...

 

Vote Dice.

 

Game over if wrong.

[Sakaea]

Sounds good by me. He was on my scum list too. Vote Dice.

[Basel Gill]

Hah!

 

Good news everyone! Roleless innocent :)

 

Dice ill get to you in a bit, but if someone wants to copy past the final vote counts that should do it enough.

 

Also, statistics say Basel is mafia.

 

AMA is a maybe, haven't watched her quite so much though it would fit.

 

 

That is worth consideration.  I suppose you lot will want a name claim with my role claim.

 

I am Ulysses S Grant.  Pitiful president that he was.

 

Hang on a second, aren't role claims not allowed?

[Amadine]

I can go with Dice, but I still believe Kae is scum

 

UNVOTE

 

VOTE DICE

[Hallia]

That's L-1 is it not? Any thoughts Dice?

[dicetosser1]

yeah  that darthe finally scored a mafia role.  Notice that Ama was L-1 when Darthe swoops in to save her. She was on 2 lynches of townies and both she and i missed the lynch on RTE as it was during our australian daytime. i was at work i have no idea if ama works or goes to school or what.

 

Darthe convienently doesnt see this.  I say they are teammates. And darth doesnt want me lynched  he wants me "killed". His mind is in scum mod perhaps?

 

im John Adams 2nd president of the USA and i am not scum

[dicetosser1]

and im leaving my vote on amadine tho i would happily vote darthe now he has shown his true colors.

 

 

and im thinking they may be the last 2 scum cause otherwise i probably would have already been hammered

[Basel Gill]

That's an interesting argument, Dice. I'll also leave my vote on Ama, I don't see much that pings me about you this game.

[ed2funy]

That's L-1
 
Vote Count
 
Ama (2) - Dice, Basel

Dice (3) - Noldy Darthe V, Kae, Ama
 
Not Voting: Lenlo, Hallia
 
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch
UPDATED Day 6 Deadline is March 22st at 9PM MST, 11PM EST. 

[Lenlo]

and im leaving my vote on amadine tho i would happily vote darthe now he has shown his true colors.

 

 

and im thinking they may be the last 2 scum cause otherwise i probably would have already been hammered

The counter argument to this is that *you* are scum and your team doesnt want to hammer you.

 

Vote Dice

 

I really hope im not wrong,

[ed2funy]

Final Vote Count
 
Ama (2) - Dice, Basel
Dice (4) - Noldy Darthe V, Kae, Ama, Lenlo
 
Not Voting: Hallia
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch

 

A loud clack of thunder shook the walls of John Adams' old house. It was the house he lived in before he would assume the mantle of the Presidency. It was also the house he had those crazy dreams in. Oddly, it was the house that he had those crazy dreams in - the ones that set him on the path to become the next President. He hadn't made his decision on the matter until those dreams came to him. 

Now, as he sat in his new bed, the bed he only lay in because he was now the President, he was afraid. He had somehow put those horrible dreams out of his head, but something made him remember every single detail in his sleep. He had an idea of what was coming for him, and so he penned a note to his son, hoping it would make it's way to him at the right time. Once he sealed the envelope and write instructions on the front, he slid it into a secret compartment in his nightstand. As he replaced the panel, he noticed a second shadow on the wall. 

 

So, it was time. He said hello to the man who cast the cast and slowly began to turn around. Naturally, he never got to see his attacker. His blood seeped through the carpets while the man searched the nightstand. 

 
Dicetosser1, President John Adams, is dead. 
President Adams was born on October 30, 1735 in Braintree, Massachusetts, and was Innocent. 
 
Deadline is Monday the 25th, 9PM MST, 11PM EST

[Darthe]

Well shat.  Thought I had that one.

[Sakaea]

Well we're screwed.

[Darthe]

Yeah.  If we have a vig please kill Lenlo.  I knew it was either him or Basel and the vote sealed it.

[Darthe]

That said, I did think it was one of them and Dice ).)  Suppose that was really AMA.  

[Sakaea]

I don't think we have a vig. I had Basel and Lenlo pegged as town...dammit

[dicetosser1]

silly people

 

 

go town

[Lenlo]

Yeah.  If we have a vig please kill Lenlo.  I knew it was either him or Basel and the vote sealed it.

?

 

How does this make me scum? I thought your argument for Dice being scum was good and I agreed with it. If that makes me scum then lets just go and lynch Ama and Kae to! Though an Ama lynch still sounds good.

[Sakaea]

If the game is still going after tonight, def voting for Ama

[ed2funy]

Piano is replacing Hallia. 

[dapianoplay3r]

Due to limited time I'm only going to deal with the mess of the last day

Honestly you people

 

Right so lets begin (I've not quotes things directly if I've quotes someone replying to them. Me in blue)

 

 

Well I'm stunned. I can't tell you how I came by my info without telling you my role, but there's something funky going on here for sure.

  lets start with Kae. Weird and just odd reveal about her role. It's hard to work out the real power she has or how it works. I defiantly feel that she is using no reveals about roles to her advantage.

As for the actual quote. Well I'm stunned gosh darn it. Fake as hell. I don't buy it. Her role magically seems to of been messed with

This pings hard.

amen

We lynched Mish because you claimed to have info implicating her as scum. Then she flipped town. After that flip came, you sound like you are taking convenient advantage of the no role claims rule and hiding behind it to cover your evasiveness and make an excuse for the fact that you really didn't get any info on Mish. In your shoes, I think I would be hoping that Mish turns out to be a miller when the mods give us further info. Cause that's about the only thing that can save you, Kae.

 

other than the last part about miller being the only thing to save her I'm with Basel all the way on this. Kae is smelling of mafia

 

 

I realize that :/ I'm George Washington, tho, and I can say that John Snow's death was due to something I did. I do not have a killing power, however.

or it has nothing to do with you and you are trying to gain a little bit of town credit. You are so ambiguous that you could still suddenly claim any new power and it wouldn't be that far a stretch. At least put in some effort with fake claims

 

  

 

With the results if the last day and night...VOTE KAE

I dont like this.

  neither do I

Yes Kae has some explaining to do, but voting her right off the bat is giving the mafia and anyone else an easy chance to swoop in and hammer her. We are at LyLo most likely and this is not a good move.

  

i believe Len is the first to mention LYLO and look how Ama and Kae pick it up

 

I would like to hear Kae explain herself. If she has been telling the truth, she deserves a chance as best as she can without breaking the rule about role reveals. I'm feeling pretty skeptical of whatever she might say, but I'm willing to listen before voting.

thank you for this. I hate speed lynches in games. Let people bloody speak

 

  

Ok, the best I can give you is that while I am George Washington, and was responsible in a roundabout way for John Snow's death, I am also responsible for Song's death. However, I also can tell that Lenlo and Basel are both town. These are our remaining players:

 

  look some more magical information. For someone who jumps on the LYLO idea in a moment you don't seem ready to give out information till tomorrow

5. Basel Gill, almost certainly town

7. Lenlo, claims Jackson, almost certainly town hang on. You said are town above but in this part they are almost certainly town. That's a very different thing and too much wiggle room for my liking

10. Nolder, probably town

interesting. Cos I think the way Darthe appeared was scummy, so scummy

11. Amadine (replaced Andrej), scum

also interesting cos I also think she's mafia

13. dicetosser1, scum

well that wasnt right

15. Sakaea, George Washington

but not town I notice

16. Hallia, scum

  bring it on

 

We started with 18 players, so we probably had 3 mafia, the symp, and the SK to start. now watch as she jumps on the LYLO train and starts to scare the crowd

So, we have all 3 original mafia members left. Out of Nolder, Ama, dice, and Hallia, I think almost certainly our scum are Ama, dice, and Hallia.

well dice wasnt and I'm not. That leaves Ama, who I think so too. I bet you start pushing Hally/me instead of Ama for the lynch tomorrow though

 

I realize you all don't trust me, but if you lynch me, mafia wins. well that wasnt true. But it was some great fearmongering it was

And since Ama immediately jumped on me before I was even awake today, I feel safe in voting her as sure scum. Vote Ama

  

I'm reading as I go but from the OP I know she isn't dead yet. Strange cos I thought she would surely be lynched

 

The fact that the mafia didnt immediately jump on Kae lead me to believe one of 2 things.

 

1) Kae is scum and they dont want to lynch her. I find this unlikely at this point.

she doesn't add up but she is the more unlikely mafia cAndidate

 

2) Ama is scum and they still do not have the numbers to jump on Kae and insta hammer her, securing them the win.

evidently they didn't have the numbers to speed lynch but I still think it's by likely she is mafia

There is a slim chance they both are and gambiting, but very very slim.

Darthe is my pick

I personally find this alot more likely as Ama could be trying to start a quick train on Kae before she is awake so that she can get lynched thus winning mafia the game. She was way to careless for it being this late in the game.

seems rather too forward and careless if you don't have the numbers for a LYLO.

It's why I suggested the gambit, but as I read more the less gambit potential I see

  

If Ama flips town it's game over. 

  well it wasnt LYLO it seems

ON A SIDE NOTE: I will finally be reading AMOL, starting tonight or tomorrow morning. So if I'm nowhere to be found for a day or 2 that will be why.

  

I will if the game is still going.

but this is LYLO according to you. Surely that would be the time to share what you could.

But if we lynch Ama, and she flips scum, then we carry on with my list.

that feels like bargaining. Lynch this person and ill give you something. Not really LYLO type talk

If y'all decide you don't trust me, and lynch me, game over. 

 

but it wasnt and that's fearmongering to the extreme

 

 

You are being lead by the scum. If Kae were town the mafia would have jumped on my vote and killed Kae off.

so you also subscribe to the LYLO thing. It's here that I'd like to note that Nol hadn't been around for a while. I happen to find Drthes entrance scummy as hell. It could be Ama trying to spin this to get more votes cos her teammate couldn't get online to help speed lynch

If you lynch me this game is over and Kae and Lenlo and either Hallia or Basel win the game as scum.

Just for the record I am Thomas Jefferson.

then you parrot the line Kae used, and suggest Len and Basel as people that should be on the cards,people Kae said were town. I know you don't believe Kae, neither do I, but what I'm going to suggest is leaving her till a bit later just in case she is telling the truth. If this was really LYLO you were extremely sort sighted and intent on Kae. You went for the easiest target and then after the people she said were town. If she is telling the truth then they are town. If you thought it was LYLO it wasn't the time to suggest testing her.

Here's a thought. Don't vote off the bat when you think it's LYLO! Take a breath and talk about it

 

  

Maybe it's dice as scum instead of Lenlo tho and they are hoping a townie will hammer me. I am not sure but Kae is definitely scum

  

now look who offers a compromise. One that turned out to be town. Look who also appears very soon to second that.

 

Side note. Use commas. Last sentence can be read as you aren't sure that Kae is defiantly scum, not that you aren't sure about the rest of your post. Poor sentence structure is unhelpful

 

Hmm... Im tempted to lynch Nol just on lurking/Inactive policy. Its a good way for a scum to hide and I dont like lurkers.

 

((Unless im doing the lurking ofcourse :P))

at LYLO you suggest a lurker.(well you thought it was LYLO)

Yee Gods *facepalm*

 

 

now Darthe arrives and backs Ama up, gets a townie lynches, and risen from the dead a 5th time

  

Guess whose back.  

 

 

Okay, so I do not have my role yet but I have been dying to say this for a good while now.  Based on VC analysis Dice is scum.

big big big big issues with that sentence. Why would he do this before reading his Role PM? It's stupid. If he was mafia he may well of cost them a player. It's too stupid for Darthe to do so I call bullshit.

Also I know how you love the numbers and analysis but its not all that. I think we should start a thread to argue about it

 

Also, meta. (He tends to be quieter and care more about his life as scum than town, like significantly so.)

 

Also, the really awful things he slips into his minimalistic posts,

 

Thus: I'll vote him when Ed introduces me and I hope I didn't just out a teammate (Ed, if you gave me four townies and just put me as mafia I shall hunt you)

 

he hopes he didn't out a teammate. But he still posts.

So he thought about the consequences of this post if he hadn't read the role PM. So why post it?

To me it reads like he's mafia using a clever post to throw suspicion on dice and try make it look like he is being completely objective (not influenced by Ama or a QT)

He then also highlights that he has subbed in a town a heap

 

If there had been a townie on my vote I would be dead.

well no not true. The fact the game is still going proves that. So I'm more inclined to believe this as you knew this wasn't LYLO; as mafia but milked the idea it might be to save your skin

I am confident that there are three scum left and they tried for a quick lynch with nothing to go on.

there is a very small chance that there are three mafia left, ill explain at the bottom. It's unlikely though.

Thankfully the town were not so quick to bandwagon. Watch those three try again to lead the town around.

 

I bet you were disappointed that they didn't  

Notably, (sorry, still catching up on the reading) Snow was an SK and not mafia which I thought.  @ED that should be in a color other than Red you sneaky person.

  could be a slip. Cos Kate qualified this

If Darthe had a QT and saw Snow was mafia but then he was SK on the thread he would use it to try get some cred and use it

This means he was killed by the mafia so... today should be lylo.

  and what do you know he does!

We should have three mafia left...

  normally yes but it wasnt that unlikely that the mafia was 3 and 1 symp. Personally I would of had it 4 and a symp but 3 does balance

As a very good mod you should of considered this

Vote Dice.

 

Game over if wrong.

but it wasnt.

And Darthe just neatly broke the stand still with Ama and Kae.

How convenient

 

  

yeah  that darthe finally scored a mafia role.  Notice that Ama was L-1 when Darthe swoops in to save her. She was on 2 lynches of townies and both she and i missed the lynch on RTE as it was during our australian daytime. i was at work i have no idea if ama works or goes to school or what.

 

Darthe convienently doesnt see this.  I say they are teammates. And darth doesnt want me lynched  he wants me "killed". His mind is in scum mod perhaps?

 

im John Adams 2nd president of the USA and i am not scum

  

Dice mentioned this but no one seemed to listen

Kids been on a roll recently actually

Well shat.  Thought I had that one.

another gosh darn it post. No sorry, no thank god that wasnt LYLO. Just oh well

  

Well we're screwed.

 

if you were screwed the game would of ended

 

I don't think we have a vig. I had Basel and Lenlo pegged as town...dammit

 

that was the slim chance there were 3 mafia left, a Vig shot at night could of kept the town alive

 

If the game is still going after tonight, def voting for Ama

kae, Ama and Darthe are my bets for the mafia, 2 of them are. Not sure which but I'm leaning heavily to Ama and Darthe, then Kae

[Basel Gill]

Kae, you sound awfully sure that your role led to John and Song's deaths. Can you be sure that they weren't the intended victims for those two hits? That would mean you role wasn't involved at all, I'd guess.

[Darthe]

I'm actually fine with Dap's analysis.  I was off on dice and that is not a bad plug.  Ama looks to me more like a newbie being used than mafia but I am working on that angle.  Still, a lot of natural suspicion as I have been the single biggest influence to a town defeat here (or rather, those who have killed me multiple times) and Ama has been stuck on a back burner all game.  Shoulda gotten yourself killed earlier to avoid the endgame WIFOM imo.

[Sakaea]

Kae, you sound awfully sure that your role led to John and Song's deaths. Can you be sure that they weren't the intended victims for those two hits? That would mean you role wasn't involved at all, I'd guess.

 

 

No, I'm sure I'm afraid.

[dapianoplay3r]

Ammas not new darthe