[Themed] AVATAR Mafia Game Thread - GAME ON

[Kivam]

So... for now, nothing? That was a little anti-climactic Kivs...

 

Patience is a virtue, my dear, and I thought you, at least, would appreciate the mental torture.

 

The dice rolled empty on the deaths.

 

They did not roll empty on the second consequence. Two non-voters rolled an . . . unlucky number. You'll all find out who, and what happens, once you get your night actions in

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

Are you directing this to me, or somebody else? I'm a little confused - can you clarify please?

You said that about Balthamel getting off that vote? Then you. Since when is it more than a null tell to jump off a vote when a person claims? You should expect used to be able to expect most people to get off the vote until a discussion had commenced.

 

Ahh, ok - I see what you meant. And you're right about that. But recent mafia here has shown that what we *thought* was common procedure is most definitely not anymore.

 

 

 

So... for now, nothing? That was a little anti-climactic Kivs...

 

How about voting, then? All non-voters are EXTREMELY suspect in my book. Trying not to lynch a mafia teammate and get a random to hit the town (due to greater numbers)?

[Osangar-Mafia]

Are you directing this to me, or somebody else? I'm a little confused - can you clarify please?

You said that about Balthamel getting off that vote? Then you. Since when is it more than a null tell to jump off a vote when a person claims? You should expect used to be able to expect most people to get off the vote until a discussion had commenced.

 

Ahh, ok - I see what you meant. And you're right about that. But recent mafia here has shown that what we *thought* was common procedure is most definitely not anymore.

And that makes it less of a null tell? Prudence vs old school vs new school? I have noticed that a lot of people don't follow the same expectations as before (you see my strike out line?), but I'm not as nice as before either. None of that negates the actual point of it being a null tell.

 

And now I know how the multi-quote functions. Nifty.

[Guest Semirhage-Mafia]

So... for now, nothing? That was a little anti-climactic Kivs...

 

Patience is a virtue, my dear, and I thought you, at least, would appreciate the mental torture.

 

The dice rolled empty on the deaths.

 

They did not roll empty on the second consequence. Two non-voters rolled an . . . unlucky number. You'll all find out who, and what happens, once you get your night actions in

Well, I actually learned last night that patience is NOT one of my virtues when I was in line for dinner after work and it took more than 5 minutes for anyone to even look at me and THINK of helping me. Patience is not so high up there for me apparently.

 

Are you directing this to me, or somebody else? I'm a little confused - can you clarify please?

You said that about Balthamel getting off that vote? Then you. Since when is it more than a null tell to jump off a vote when a person claims? You should expect used to be able to expect most people to get off the vote until a discussion had commenced.

 

Ahh, ok - I see what you meant. And you're right about that. But recent mafia here has shown that what we *thought* was common procedure is most definitely not anymore.

 

 

 

So... for now, nothing? That was a little anti-climactic Kivs...

 

How about voting, then? All non-voters are EXTREMELY suspect in my book. Trying not to lynch a mafia teammate and get a random to hit the town (due to greater numbers)?

That was the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen in my life. It would have been intelligent of the mafia to put their votes on separate people, to help along with the no-lynch, and then state that they are willing to change their vote if necessary to get a lynch (really they're just stalling). It means they help NOT get a majority, along with not being on the non-voter list.

I on the other hand was one of the non-voters, meaning I put myself at risk for death or maybe worse from our devious mod-God over there. Having standards for voting, and not being able to get online much worked to my disadvantage here, but I'm willing to face the consequences.

Next time think out the reasoning before pointing your FOS.

[Guest Cyndane-Mafia]

Are you directing this to me, or somebody else? I'm a little confused - can you clarify please?

You said that about Balthamel getting off that vote? Then you. Since when is it more than a null tell to jump off a vote when a person claims? You should expect used to be able to expect most people to get off the vote until a discussion had commenced.

 

Ahh, ok - I see what you meant. And you're right about that. But recent mafia here has shown that what we *thought* was common procedure is most definitely not anymore.

 

 

 

So... for now, nothing? That was a little anti-climactic Kivs...

 

How about voting, then? All non-voters are EXTREMELY suspect in my book. Trying not to lynch a mafia teammate and get a random to hit the town (due to greater numbers)?

That was the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen in my life. It would have been intelligent of the mafia to put their votes on separate people, to help along with the no-lynch, and then state that they are willing to change their vote if necessary to get a lynch (really they're just stalling). It means they help NOT get a majority, along with not being on the non-voter list.

I on the other hand was one of the non-voters, meaning I put myself at risk for death or maybe worse from our devious mod-God over there. Having standards for voting, and not being able to get online much worked to my disadvantage here, but I'm willing to face the consequences.

Next time think out the reasoning before pointing your FOS.

 

I don't see why both strategies should conflict.

 

Semi's defensivness is worth note, however.

[Kivam]

Night is over. Day opening scene will be posted when work permits (late today - I'm out of the office).

[Guest Rahvin-Mafia]

That was the most ridiculous reasoning I've ever seen in my life. It would have been intelligent of the mafia to put their votes on separate people, to help along with the no-lynch, and then state that they are willing to change their vote if necessary to get a lynch (really they're just stalling). It means they help NOT get a majority, along with not being on the non-voter list.

 

Most ridiculous, eh? Are you prepared to eat those words? The reasoning is sound. Read back. Show me where Kivam said non-voters were going to be in trouble upon failure to reach a majority. Until the roulette comment once he ended day, he NEVER said that. His only mention was a warning to us that we didn't want to not gain a majority. He didn't state why, just that it would be bad.

 

With that in mind, my reasoning is perfectly fine. If that's ridiculous to you, then I'm really sorry to hear that, hehe.

 

 

 

I on the other hand was one of the non-voters, meaning I put myself at risk for death or maybe worse from our devious mod-God over there. Having standards for voting, and not being able to get online much worked to my disadvantage here, but I'm willing to face the consequences.

Next time think out the reasoning before pointing your FOS.

 

Like I said, show me where you would know non-voters were at risk. You had no clue you'd be in trouble until the day ended without a majority. Soooo....not putting a vote on a mafia teammate to hammer is certainly a valid strategy with the information we had at the time. Of course, in hindsight it is not, but you didn't know that before the day was called.

 

Feel free to look back and quote me where Kivam said a roulette was coming from non-voters. I'll wait here. Before you look back, know that I did look back. ;-)

 

Not only is your "think out the reasoning" line a load of crap, but now you're a hypocrite for accusing me of doing something that you just did. I have a valid FOS on you - your defensiveness of it by trying to counterattack is duly noted, though.

[Osangar-Mafia]

Does that mean no one died? Or that we have to wait and see?

 

In the event that there was no announcement at this point. I'll restate from yesterday. I am willing to vote Halima or Mesaana, Moridin or Shaidar, Rahvin or Semirhage, or Cyndane. I'm actually leaning toward Moridin and Semirhage today for the events of late yesterday and last night.

 

Anyone else have voting thoughts at this point?

[Osangar-Mafia]

In fact, I'm going to go ahead and vote Moridin for what would have been an OMGUS if he'd have had his facts straight. Instead it was an outright, poor attempt at libel- as previously shown on thread. This is on top of the other reasons that were also previously cited in the last day. For the record, this vote would have come sooner if it wouldn't have been so close to deadline.

 

VOTE MORIDIN

 

The mafia really isn't liking me, is it? I've seen several... odd... attempts like this. :D Let's play.

[Taim-Mafia]

Im holding off on a vote this early in the day to see what Kiv's "penalties" turn out to be. But Im still leaning towards Cyndane at this point

[Kivam]

Borrowing another attorney's computer, so I need to make this quick:

 

1) Night Kill:

 

 

Rahvin (Zuko) the Schizo Survivor is dead

 

 

2) Penalties.

 

The roulette penalty for yesterday was a full reveal. Townies' role and player behind the alt will be revealed on the scum QT . Scum will be revealed here.

 

HALIMA IS MAFIA.

 

With 16 players alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

[Belal-Mafia]

Well that was certainly an interesting penalty. Helped make our job easier, at least in regards to one.

 

 

 

VOTE HALIMA

[Dashiva-Mafia]

Adios Rahvin.

 

And Goodbye Halima!

 

VOTE HALIMA

[Balthamel-Mafia]

VOTE: HALIMA

 

 

So Zuko was a schizoid survivor, wonder what type of power he had. Certaintly an interesting role name though. I don't like that the Mafia gets to learn the roles of the town players who didn't vote, but we don’t. Still, we can use this as a process of elimination to narrow down who might be scum.

 

Halima was the only non-voter who was scum, which means that the rest of the scum team was voting. These are the others who didn't vote, so we can eliminate them from our search: Aginor, Demandred, Graendal, Ishamael, Moghedien, Semirhage.

 

In my opinion, I think our best bet will be to either vote Osangar or Cyndane tomorrow. One's alignment will either implicate or clear the other seeing as they've been going back & forth for around 2 game days. Given the evidence presented and the player’s actions, I'd prefer a vote on Cyndane more so. Osangar seems to be our undesignated leader, which is why I feel its imperative for us to sort out his alignment ASAP; I'd hate for him to be scum and leading us all along, which I've seen plenty of scum do and have done so myself a few times.

 

Another I feel we need to look into is Shaidar Haran, mostly for the same reasons I had suspected Aginor. Apparently Aginor is innocent though, so we shant be bringing that debate back up.

 

Taim & Mesaana are my other two suspects. Taim your flying low, throwing your vote in and not really contributing much aside from saying what other people have already said. It's the appearance of being helpful, without actually being helpful. Mesaana, your tactics with Lanfear still don't sit well with me, and then you drop from the radar the next few game days after being really active on the Lanfear lynch; kind of like a scum trying to get out of the radar so the town ignores her again.

[ShaidarHaran-Mafia]

Well, it seems pretty obvious what I have to do here...

 

VOTE: HALIMA

[Belal-Mafia]

While I appreciate your logic Balthy, you are wrong. This is what Kiv said:

 

So... for now, nothing? That was a little anti-climactic Kivs...

 

Patience is a virtue, my dear, and I thought you, at least, would appreciate the mental torture.

 

The dice rolled empty on the deaths.

 

They did not roll empty on the second consequence. Two non-voters rolled an . . . unlucky number. You'll all find out who, and what happens, once you get your night actions in

 

Only two got the unlucky number, so I assume we got to know one, while the mafia got to know one. We should be so lucky to narrow down the suspects to those who voted...

 

I also find the schizo survivor bit of Rahvin's reveal to be interesting, I wonder if that has anything to do with his "power" if he had one.

[Guest Mesaana-Mafia]

VOTE: HALIMA

 

Wow thats pretty different

 

I hope you guys get a lynch. Im going on a LOA for the weekend. Got a family friends wedding to go to. Sorry I cant be here but ive voted so that should help atleast a little.

Got an exam now. gtg

[Osangar-Mafia]

UNVOTE: VOTE HALIMA

 

hahahaha! I was right about something be wrong with BOTH of them. Will read the rest and analyze later.

[Guest Moridin-Mafia]

VOTE HALIMA

[Osangar-Mafia]

Halima was the only non-voter who was scum' date=' which means that the rest of the scum team was voting.[/quote']

That’s not what Kivam said. Please reread this post.

And this one.

 

Halima was the only non-voter who was scum who hit the unlucky 1/6 in the roll of the Random.org dice.

 

In my opinion' date=' I think our best bet will be to either vote Osangar or Cyndane tomorrow. One's alignment will either implicate or clear the other seeing as they've been going back & forth for around 2 game days.[/quote']

Interesting reasoning. And not true. Neither course is mutually exclusive. And of course, that makes it dangerous to believe it is so. We could just really be on the wrong page. Though I have my personal doubts about Cyndane for some rather particular reasons, I would never advocate lynching her on faulty reasoning.

 

Another I feel we need to look into is Shaidar Haran' date=' mostly for the same reasons I had suspected Aginor. Apparently Aginor is innocent though, so we shant be bringing that debate back up.[/quote']

We can discuss in depth any time. I think there are some incompatibilities in the comparisons though.

 

Only two got the unlucky number' date='[/quote']

Well, poo on you for getting there first.

 

I also find the schizo survivor bit of Rahvin's reveal to be interesting' date=' I wonder if that has anything to do with his "power" if he had one.[/quote']

Just so we are clear. It sounds similar to a Jester role to me (without further details…), though whether he was supposed to try to live or die... So I’ll go out on a limb and say that when you add the count of no voting that killed him with the inability to vote, it’s likely that he made himself unable to vote. Which is, incidentally, a very amusing thought. He may have killed himself accidentally on purpose. Oh, the irony. Anyway, this also explains the craziness of some of his posts. Chew on that a while. Let me know what you think.

[Osangar-Mafia]

You can't just type [quote=name anymore to name the person? That sucks. I've been adding names that didn't show up.

[alannalynn]

Well, this makes toDay a lot easier... if we can roulette every day and get a mafia that would be great, but that's probably not how it works, just wishful thinking. It's dangerous to think what the mafia could have found out.

 

VOTE HALIMA

 

 

Kiv, I kinda like what Alanna is doing in her game in the Aiel, making us bold and red our votes.. may make it easier to see and less of a hassle for you, but I don't know what you prefer, or maybe I'm just a lazy #$% or don't like following the rules. haha

[Osangar-Mafia]

That'd be lynch if it was the right account. ;)

[Kivam]

Vote Count

 

Halima (7) - Belal, Dashiva, Balthamel, Shaidar Haran, Mesaana, Osangar, Moridin

 

9 to lynch

[Kivam]

FYI, I've given you all enough info to figure out what "schizo survivor" means - and I won't give you any more.