[Advanced] Old West Mischief Mafia - Town Wins!

[Eldrick4221]

Jetscode shows up thirty pages behind and trolls strong players until he catches up. Right around that he admitted only reading to page 5. LOL

A) jetscode?

 

B) I am SOOO not a strong player. Thanks though.

[dicetosser1]

eldrick jetscode= notbob   he uses  jetscode on JN

[Tiinker]

vote LizAndClov

[Eldrick4221]

I do not like Eldrick's soft defense tendencies. Yes, Darthe does this claim stuff like this too often but Eldrick's rationalizing comes across as scummy.

I just came from a game where he did this as scum. I learned from that game that his doing it is null.

 

Also the setup differences between the games is a factor. In that game, it was open setup with 1 pr. I thought his claim was role fishing. Here it clearly isn't, because it's closed and he could easily be vig or not. No fishing intent this time.

 

So it's scummy that I'm learning?

[dicetosser1]

can we get a vc please?

[Eldrick4221]

Yes, but he muddies the waters. I'd prefer to see the interactions...let Darthe answer for his BS claims.

What alignment was I last time you accused me of "muddying the waters"? That's right, town. It's null at worst. You aiming to mislynch me again?

 

You scum this time?

[Lizabeth]

Too many people have unvoted Kizzy - I get the part where we don't have a deadline and I do want to see game related posts from everyone before we hammer. But the now infamous post #309 (and subsequent defense of) needs pressure, especially in light of the account being hydra.

 

Unvote - Vote Kizzy Clov

 

I checked the Guiness Book of World Records, and it turns out that the scummiest post a mafioso can make is in fact "so who do you think my scummates are?". 

 

Seriously, Lizbeth follows #309 up with one terrible response after another and then Mrs. Clov has to come in and do spin/damage control. But the common denominators connecting all of their posts seem to be:

 

1. Both players primary focus is to save their account - not to help the Town.

2. Both players beg for mercy at different points and use the clock in their defense.

3. Both players have offered very limited reads, and I am including Mrs. Cov's list. The fluff is there, but the hard lines are lacking. 

 

Ima leave it at that for now and see what else the tide brings in.

 

Yeah, I'm going to challenge on this.

 

1. You're going to have to explain to me how saving our account when we are town is not helping town. And I'm going to argue that we've done as much or more than 3/4 of the players when it comes to advancing the thread. It's not our job as town to let ourselves get mislynched while sitting quietly in a corner.

 

2. point out to me where I begged for mercy, and when either of us used the clock in our defense?

 

3. MrsClov posted an entire list of her thoughts, and both of us have identified a number of players that we consider to be town. Which is more than you and several other players have done to date.

[Lizabeth]

 

@Cuth

 

Can you accept that people play differently? Not everything is black and white and not every person who is town is going to follow a certain guideline, nor is someone who is scum. Just because you don't feel something should be done in a game as town, doesn't mean that everyone's going to feel that way. Liz and I are doing things that are going to try to get us intel, and we play for the long game not just a quick lynch on D1 and hope it's scum. So by saying who do you think is our scum team we can look at that person and figure out if we agree or disagree. I get what you all are saying about cases I really do. But how can we case anyone when you all are attacking us and not even giving us a chance. We've been on defense all day, and it's kind of hard to switch to offense when every other post we have to defend ourselves because someone doesn't agree with our playstyle.

This just sounds like a bad defense of Lizabeth. Nobody is arguing we all play differently. 100% True. This early in the game as town I can only read what people say and comment on if I find the reasoning congruent with my own ideas in fininding scum or not. No voting patterns and no flips and for me no meta as it it pertains to Lizabeth. I see nothing to be gained by a question that produces pure guesses and hypothetical what ifs at this point. Who do you think is scum? Who do you think is town? Those are questions that produce guesses that are usefull later on once more info is available. But this question in my opinion as town does nothing but take us away from finding scum.

 

You're being close minded then. I already cited an example where I was able to use that type of a question productively. It obviously isn't working here, but that doesn't mean that it can't.

[Wildfire Sedai]

Caught up to page 22.

 

Liz/mc:   MrsClov explained the reason for vote and other statements made.

 

 However, could it be a too good of an explanation? one that was too well thought up? I mean it did take her a while to finally come out with it.  Keeping this in mind as game continues.

 

seph: I like the way that questions people, straightforward.  I also like his reads list but not so fond of having darthe so high a town atp.  

 

Though, darthe is null for me now.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Hello. Lost my Wifi yesterday and part of today. Just got it back. Will be trying to get caught up.

*giggles*

 

Wifi lost her wifi!

 

Good to see you, hon! <3

Beat me to it :P

[Songstress]

Official Vote Count (Unchanged):

 

Darthe Wade (1): Cass

Miss Kizzy Clov (3): Dice, Darthe, DPR 

Eldrick the Kid (1): NotBob

NotBob Cassidy (1): Cuth

 

Not Voting: Sooh, NotBob, WiFi, Hallia, Tiinker, Spoof, Crusher, Miss Kizzy Clov,  Seph, Eldrick, Kronos

 

With 16 alive it takes 9 to string em up!

 

Deadline for D1 is Tuesday, 2/14/17 at 9:00 AM MST

 

 

can we get a vc please?

 

Unchanged from earlier in on the same page.

 

vote LizAndClov

 

See rule #3, Tiink

[Lizabeth]

Up through 18

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

 

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

He did?

 

Hmmm....

seriously, Liz woofin

Ugh...quotes

 

If I were you'd never know it

 

What's your read on MrsClov?

Def bad responses. Easy game, gg, no rematch

Yes, because I was such an easy read for you the one time I actually played against you as scum.

Defensive, and I find that using past games as justification for dismissong a read in a cirrent game tends to be a slightly wolf thing to do.

 

 

 

 

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

Idk its d1, surely one wolf is enough atm. This is a distraction post.

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, so let's play a game of pretend.

 

Let's pretend MrsClov and I are scum.

 

Who are our partners?

that's unimportant and a silly line of thought to even carry on at this point of the game

 

it's d1 and there are literally 0 flips

 

our goal is to find one scum

 

unless you are saying that you have interacted in a very towny way with every player in the game

Lol mindmeld

 

 

I didn't continue quoting, but it seems like Linz/Liz are on the defensive here the last few pages.  ATM I could vote them, but I want to see what if anything changes.

Why wouldn't we be on the defensive?

 

Seriously, people's expectations about how town is supposedly supposed to attack when they're being tunneled on make absolutely 0 sense to me...

[Eldrick4221]

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

[MrsClov]

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

 

What's LHF?

[Eldrick4221]

 

 

 

I'm quite curious about Wildfire not checking in yet.

Oh are you? That seems super important, Lol.

Concerned mainly. She was pretty active early on last game and considering she was the one who asked for me to be summoned I assumed it meant she was eager to play. The fact that she hasn't even checked in yet concerns me both for her as a person and what it could be as an alignment. Until she checks in it doesn't really mean anything though. Can't read what isn't there.

Folks if you have no other reason to read Miss clove as a wolf, this would be enough. She is going out of her way to put suspicion on a player for having not checked in yet in the midst of being sussed on thread and having low activity regarding those who are around.

This right here in particular. Horrible reasoning to suss them for. Being suspicious of someone that they expected to be excited for the game is a good reason.

 

But more importantly the post comes off as worried about the person more than it does suspicious of the player, and it feels like you are just trying to find something to get them on.

[Eldrick4221]

 

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

What's LHF?

Low hanging fruit. Easy lynch.

[Eldrick4221]

[V]Darthe[/v]

[Lizabeth]

 

 

caught up to page 5.   There seems to be a lot going on.  going to try and go faster with catch up.

 

 

 

 

*Shucks the Zander alt and takes a seat at the bar*

*Raises eyebrow at the newcomers and waits for twinkle toes*

 

Hi Ho Bunyan!!!!!! Lets lynch them scallywags!


and im First!

So...vote Dice?

Cos he's a Scallywag or cos you're scum?

Because he was bragging about being first...and because I hear it's fun :D

Only when he's sleeping.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

 

I like the bold because it seems genuine and from the heart.

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum?

That he's doing it again is so null it's hilarious.

A) Huge difference between him doing it last game and this game is this game is closed. We don't even know IF there's a vig.

B) Darthe claiming early in general is null by itself.

C) He could easily do this again if he rolled scum again as equally as he could as town.

 

 

I have come to expect this from darthe as his first post in most games so, much that I too consider it null.

 

 

 

 

 
 
Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz This is DM, home of ZANDER AND CASS - you can let your ENFP fly FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!
 
Also, Mrs Clov can keep you in check I'm sure 

Okay then...if I get in trouble I'm blaming it all on you

[v]Dice[/v]

Mmm...that felt good >:)

 

 

Yep youre in trouble

 

 

FTR this vote was coming before she posted this.

 

vote lizzie and clyde or whatever their monniker is. Didnt like that "i wanna RVS but i dont wanna be second!"

 

 

What is RVS??

 

 

 

 

 

Lizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz This is DM, home of ZANDER AND CASS - you can let your ENFP fly FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!

Also, Mrs Clov can keep you in check I'm sure

Okay then...if I get in trouble I'm blaming it all on you

[v]Dice[/v]

Mmm...that felt good >:)

This bugs me. Not the vote, but the bold.

Trying to put responsibility for your actions on someone else, even jokingly, is a reason for suspicion.

 

 

 

This is actually a good point.

 

 

 

SNIPPED

Because there are cowardly scofflaws who would kill me in my sleep if they knew my true identity!!!

 

I find myself in need of a Tonto tho...would you care to apply for the position?

 

 

 

Claim: vigilante.

Discuss.

Didn't see this on the first read through, but are you really doing this the game after doing it in Sooh's Basic game as scum? 

 

 

Are you doubring Darthes love of Trolling?

 

 

Was gonna WTF IS A TONTO???? But Googled instead.

 

Came up with Johnny Depp. 

 

Stared.

 

Decided Tonto is a good thing 

 

 

 

Jay Silverheels (born Harold John Smith, May 26, 1912 – March 5, 1980) : was the first Tonto.

 

 

 

Random Voting Stage

[Eldrick4221]

Also not feeling great about NotBob. He attacked me like this before as town, but this feels...different. Keeping him at null for now, but got my eye on him.

[Lizabeth]

@liz  can you clarify what the last game with cory you are talking about is? The last one i remember is the one where you guys were a hydra or something iirc

We weren't a hydra. We were bickering neighbours.

 

It was the last game that Chris hosted here. I can't remember the name, but Sooh was in it too.

[MrsClov]

 

 

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

What's LHF?

Low hanging fruit. Easy lynch.

 

 

Gracias. I definitely don't hate your thoughts on Darthe. I'm going to be in and out and let Liz do a lot of the talking for a bit. I've got homework to convince myself I'm actually doing.

[Eldrick4221]

Random Voting Stage

Thank you

[MrsClov]

 

@liz  can you clarify what the last game with cory you are talking about is? The last one i remember is the one where you guys were a hydra or something iirc

We weren't a hydra. We were bickering neighbours.

 

It was the last game that Chris hosted here. I can't remember the name, but Sooh was in it too.

 

Final Fantasy 7.

[Lizabeth]

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

What is LHF?

[Lizabeth]

 

 

Ok. So back to thinking Lizclov is town, after realizing how much attention they are getting. It is screaming LHF.

 

I'm suspicious of Darthe for trying to push the lynch so hard.

What's LHF?

Low hanging fruit. Easy lynch.

 

NVM :P